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MURASHI IZAYI arasubiza Padiri Thomas: Padiri Nturiye Edouard alias SIMBA ntiyarenganye!

Seminari nto ya Nyundo
Seminari nto ya Nyundo

Padiri Ndahimana Thomas,

                                                                  

Ndakuramutsa nkwifuriza amahoro n’umugisha bituruka ku Mana.

 

Nasomye inyandiko yawe kuri www.veritasinfo.fr yitwa”Kwemera gacaca ni icyaha gikomeye”. Muri iyo nyandiko uvugamo uko ubona Inkiko Gacaca muri rusange n’ikibazo cy’urubanza rwa Padiri Nturiye Edouard alias Simba by’umwihariko.

 

Ikinteye kukwandikira rero, ni uko umvuga muri urwo rubanza rwa Padiri Simba ugamije kugaragaza ko mfite uruhare mu karengane wita ko yagiriwe mu rubanza yaciriwe n’Urukiko rw’Iremezo rwa Kibuye akaza kurekurwa n’Urukiko rw’Ubujurire rwa Ruhengeri,hanyuma nkongera kugira uruhare mu karengane yagiriwe n’Inkiko Gacaca z’imirenge ya Kimironko na Nyarugunga zakorerega ku NUNDO. Cyane cyane aliko ikinteye kukwandikira ni uko nasanze ibitekerezo byawe bimwe kuri Gacaca no ku rubanza rwa Padiri Simba bidahuza n’inyito y’urubuga rw’amakuru yitwa” Veritas Info”, bisobanuye ngo amakuru y’imvugakuri.Uzi neza, nk’umuntu wihaye Imana, ko ”VERITAS” cyangwa se “UKURI” ari IMANA ubwayo nk’uko tubisanga mw’Ijambo ry’ Imana: “NI JYE NZIRA,UKURI,N’UBUGINGO” (Yoh. 14,6).

 

Ndifuza rero ko tuganira kivandimwe nk’abanyarwanda dufite inyota yo gushakira Igihugu ineza kuri bose kandi tukaganira gikristo nk’abantu bemera Imana twifuza guhuza n’umugambi wayo wo kugirira abantu bose neza mu kuri kudasobanya.Igituma nifuza ahanini gusangira nawe ibitekerezo mpereye ku nyandiko yawe ni uko nakubonyemo ubushake bwo kwerekana ibitekerezo byawe udahisha, ukabivuga uko ubizi n’uko ubyumva.Aliko,ubinyemerere dusangire ibitekerezo nanjye nkwereke ko hari ibyo uvuga by’ukurin ariko hari n’ibyo wibeshyaho bityo tugirane “dialogue” izadufasha kugera kuri “veritas info” cyanwa se amakuru nyakuri.Wibuke ko “errare humanum est” bivuze ngo nta munt utibeshya aliko kandi ngo “perseverare …. Stultum est” bivuze ngo kwinangira mu kwibeshya ni ubugoryi.

 

Mubyo wanditse harimo ibyo nshima aliko hari n’ibyo mbonamo inenge nakugira inama yo gukosora bityo ukagera ku kuri .Ngiye kubanza kukwereka ibyo nshima ,nzakurikize kukwereka ibyo mbona bikwiriye gukosoreka nkwereka n’impamvu zabyo.

 

Ibyo nashimye byingenzi ni bine:

 

1-  Nashimye inyito y’urubuga wahisemo www.veritasinfo.fr igaragaza ko ufite inyota y’ukuri;

2-  Nakunze ko ufite umutima wo gushima abarezi bawe barimo Padiri Nturiye Edouard,Padiri Twagirayezu Déo,Alfred Nsengiyumva,Mathias Lyamukuru.Padiri Nturiye Edouard twita Simba kuva kera yari Padiri Mukuru wa seminari nto wizemo yo ku Nyundo, naho abandi bakubereye abarimu muri iryo shuri.Bose urabashimira uburezi n’uburere baguhaye.Umutima ushima ufite rero uragaragaza ko nabwo uri mu nzira y’ukuri ,ko naho waba wibeshya atari ibigirankana;

3-  Uremera ko ku Nyundo abatutsi bazize jenoside,ukibukana umubabaro by’umwihariko,abarimu bawe batatu twavuze haruguru;

4-  Uravuga ko unzi kandi unzi neza cyane kandi ukemera ko umuryango wanjye watikiriye muri jenoside yakorewe abatutsi ku Nyundo nanjye nkaharokokera iyo jenoside.

                                                    

Maze rero muvandimwe, iyo nsomye inyandiko yawe nkayisubira, nsanga ibi bintu uko ari bine ari „fondation“ dushobora kubakiraho tukagera kuri „veritas info“. Impamvu mbikubwira akaba ari izi zikurikira:

 

       1-Wavuze ko unzi ,kandi unzi neza cyane,ndetse nabo bose uvuga mu nyandiko yawe,kandi ngo uwibwira       umuzi ntavunika,bisobanuye ko n’uganira n’uwo baziranye atavunika;

 

       2-Jyewe ntabwo nkwibuka kuko wari umwana tutangana birumvikana.Aliko kuba ntakwibuka igihagararo nkaba ntakumenya n’ubu duhuye,ntibivuze ko tutaziranye kuko numwa „environnement“ twabanyemo ihagije ngo tube tuziranye kuri byinshi dushobora kuganiraho tubyumvikanaho neza cyane;       3-Mu kumbona muri 1986 wamboye ndi umugabo, aliko icyo ushobora kuba utazi ni uko hariya ku Nyundo nahabaye mu bwana, nkaza kuhava, nkahagaruka uriya mwaka na kuriya kwezi twahahuriye uje gutangira amashuli yisumbuye uvuye iwanyu i Cyangugu, naho jye nje kwigisha muri Lycée yo ku Nyundo, mvuye mu buhunzi muri Zaire.Mbere yo kuhava nabanje kuhigira amashuri.Nize hariya ku Nyundo igice cy’amashuri abanza mvuye iwacu muri paroisse ya Busasamana hariya haruguru yo ku Nyundo.Iwacu nahavanye n’ababyeyi banjye n’abandi benshi bo muri kariya karere ka BUGOYI twirukanywe n’ababiligi bategekaga URWANDA icyo gihe,muri gahunda yabo yo gutoteza abatutsi,kubirukana mu byabo ,kubica, kubangaza, no kubiba amacakubiri yaje kuvamo jenoside.

 

Uko nabonye jenoside n’amaso yanjye ni nako nabonye amacakubiri avuka ruto ruto mu RWANDA hose yewe n‘aho iwacu mu BUGOYI no ku NYUNDO by’umwihariko.Nzakubwira uko byaje, uko byagenze n’ababigizemo uruhare.Twabanje guhungira kuri Paroisse i Busasa,nyuma y’iminsi ibiri Ababiligi badupakira amakamyo baradushorera no Ku Nyundo.Twahamaze iminsi myinshi turara mu mashuli hariya bigishiriza gatikisimu hagati ya dipensaire n’urugo rw’ababikira b’abazungu,hanyuma batwimurira muri ariya mazu ari hafi y’ahahoze imprimerie uzi yatwitswe muri jenoside.Nashoboye gukomeza amashuli muri primaire ku Nyundo, aliko umunsi umwe sasita nsubiye aho ku icumbi nsanga iwacu ababiligi babapakiye kamyo babatwara i NYAMATA . Nk’umwana nabanje kurira aliko nsaze nta kundi nabigenza njya kwiterera umupira hariya hafi ya economat aho twari tumenyereye gutera agapira ka tenesi dukubita ku rukuta. Ubwo nabaga nifitiye ako gapira mu mufuka w’ikabutura.Nagize Imana Padiri Kalibushi aramenya kuko yari azi iwacu,arambwira ati so yambwiye ngo ngushake none uranyizaniye.yaramfashije anshyira muri boarding (internat) ya primaire yari hejuru ku musozi hafi kwa Musenyeri.Narakomeje ndiga,hanyuma nza gutsinda ikizamini cyo kujya mu iseminari yo ku Nyundo.

 

Aho mw’iseminari nahabanye na Alfred Nsengiyumva, na Padiri Edouard Nturiye turi abanyeshuli.Wowe wize ku Nyundo ,Nturiye alias Simba yarabaye padiri ariwe mukuru wa seminarI,naho jye nize ku Nyundo Padiri Mukuru wa Seminari ari Padiri Mathieu Ntahoruburiye bitaga „Magnus“ bivuze igihangange ubundi bakamwita Rushoborahakomeye,aza gusimburwa na Padiri Chrysologue Kayihura ,we agiye kuyobora Seminari Nkuru ya Nyakibanda .Wowe wize ku Nyundo Musenyeri wa Diyosezi ya Nyundo ari MYR Wenceslas Kalibushi,kandi Diyosezi igizwe na Gisenyi na Kibuye, Cyangugu imaze kubona MYR wayo ariwe Ntihinyurwa Thadée,naho jye nize Musenyeri wa Diyosezi ari Aloys Bigirumwami. Icyo gihe hariho Diyosezi ebyiri gusa mu Rwanda,Kabgayi na Nyundo.Nyundo yari ibumbye territores 4 zaje kwitwa perefegitura nyuma y’ubwigenge arizo Gisenyi,Kibuye, Ruhengeri na Byumba.Naho Kabgayi yayoborwaga na MRY André Perraudin ibumbye izindi territoires zisigaye arizo Gitarama,Astrida yahindutse Butare,Cyangugu,Kigali,Kibungo.Ndibuka ko nka nyuma y’umwaka niga mu iseminari habaye impinduka hagashingwa Diyosezi nshya ebyiri arizo Butare na Ruhengeri.Diyosezi ya Butare yashinzwe MRY Jean Baptiste Gahamanyi naho Ruhengeri ishingwa MYR Bernard Manyurane waje gupfa by’amanzaganya ataratangira imirimo ye ,agasimburwa na MYR Joseph Sibomana.Diyosezi ya Nyundo yavanyweho Ruhengeri na Byumba byahindutse Diyosezi ya Ruhengeri,isigarana Gisenyi na Kibuye hiyongereyeho Cyangugu,naho Kabgayi isigarana Gitarama,Kigali na Kibungo.Igituma nibuka cyane ibi byose ni uko izo mpinduka zakurikiwe no kwimura abanyeshuri bamwe bakaza abandi bakagenda.Ubwo abakomokaga Ruhengeri na Byumba bimuriwe Rwesero na Kabgwayi bavanyWe ku Nyundo naho abakomoka Cyangugu bigaga i Kabgayi na Kansi badusanga ku Nyundo . Ibi byose kubikubwira si ikindi, ni uko bifite uruhare rukomeye mu mateka y’u Rwanda yerekeranye n’ibyo nzagusobanurira byateye kuba nariganye na Padiri Nturiye nyuma ejobundi ngahagarara muri Gacaca mushinja jenoside yakoreye abatutsi nabonye n’amaso yanjye agiramo uruhare.

 

Wowe watangiye kwiga ku Nyundo muri 1986, twe turi abarezi bawe.Bivuze ko uri “generation”idukurikira.Natwe twarezwe na MYR Bigirumwami, Padiri Ntahoruburiye,Padiri Kayihuran’abandi nzajya nkubwira. Urumva ko kuva kuri ba MYR Bigirumwami kugera kuri wowe hari „generations“ eshatu.Wowe kandi   uzi „generation“ yawe n’iyacu,aliko kandi twe utuzi dukuze, ntutuzi turi abana, byongeye kandi ntuzi „generation“ ya ba MYR Bigirumwami na Perraudin,Manyurane,Sibomana ,Gahamanyi,Ntahoruburiye etc, nabo uzi ,ubazi bashaje       baravuye mu bikorwa bikora amateka,uretse ahari MYR Myr Kalibushi.Seminari Nto ya Nyundo wizemo yashinzwe muri 1954 itangirira hariya i Busogo mu Ruhengeri itangijwe na Padiri Matthieu Ntahoruburiye hanyuma yimurirwa ku Nyundo.Muri 1959 MUYAGA yo gutoteza no kwica abatutsi yatangiye Seminari ya Nyundo iriho.Jyewe na Padiri Nturiye na Afred Nsengiyumva twinjiyemo iyo nkubiri ya Muyaga ica agati.Uko ibintu byagendaga hanze mu gihugu ni nako byagiraga ingaruka mu bana bato twitwaga abaseminari twitegura kwiha Imana.Wibuke wa mwanditsi w’umufaransa J.J.Rousseau wavuze ngo „l“Homme est naturellement bon,c’est la Société qui le corromp“.Ngo umwana avuka ari mwiza,abakuru nibo bamuhindura.Ibi bikanyibutsa igihe nasangaga ababiligi bapakiye ikamyo ababyeyi banjye nkagenda ndira maze ngahura na Padiri Ntahoruburiye hariya mu iseminari akambaza ati wa mwana we urarizwa n’iki,nanjye nkamusubiza nti nsanze iwacu babatwaye i Nyamata.Nawe ati :“humura uzababona.Yoooo!Abana ntako basa,ni beza iyaba batakuraga!“       

 

None rero, iyi yari indamutso n’intagiriro y’ikiganiro nzakugirira kugirango uzagere kuri „veritas info“. Ibiganiro nzakugirira bizaba mu byiciro byinshi aliko bizaba bikubiye mu bice by’ingenzi bine:

 

1-Ukuri ku Rubanza rwa Padiri Nturiye Edouard alias Simba.

2-Impamvu kwemera Gacaca atari icyaha n’impamvu inama ugira Perezida w’u Rwanda Paul Kagame ukwiye kuzihindura.

3-Amateka ya Nyundo uko nayabayemo kuva ku ngoma y’ababiligi kugeza kuri jenoside yakorewe abatutsi.

4-Ijoramateka ku nyandiko zimwe ziboneka mu mateka y‘ u Rwanda.

 

Ndagirango nzakubwire nawe umbwire,maze tugere kuri „veritas info“ izatuvura twese indwara turwaye y’irondakoko ari Simba,ari wowe ,ari nanjye. Ndakwifuriza kuba umupadiri ubereye bose nkuko bamwe mu batureze bari bameze,nka kuriya wabonye MYR Kalibushi. Hari icyo wamunenga nk’umuntu wihaye Imana?Uko wamubonye n’uko umwibuka usanga mu mico ye yari umuhutu cyangwa yari umututsi? Ku bwanjye uko namubonye n’umurage mbona yasize, yari umuntu wihaye IMANA mbere ya byose .We n’abandi utamenye bakiri mu mirimo nka ba MYR Bigirumwami,Manyurane,Sibomana,Ntahoruburiye etc bazakubere urugero.

 

Ngusezeyeho nkwifuriza amahoro n’umugisha bituruka ku Mana.Ntegereje ijambo ryawe. Ni ahubutaha.

                                                                                                         Murashi Isaie

                                                    

                                                                                             

                                                                  

 

 

 

KIGALI 19/05/2011

 

        

Kuri Padiri Thomas Ndahimana(ibikurikira)

 

Muvandimwe nongeye kugusuhuza nkwifuriza amahoro y‘ Imana.Nkuko nabikubwiye ubushize, ngiye kugirana nawe ikiganiro kigizwe n‘ ibice bine:

 

-Ukuri ku Rubanza rwa Padiri Nturiye Edouard alias Simba;

-Impamvu kwemera Gacaca atari icyaha,n’impamvu inama ugira Perezida w‘ u Rwanda Paul Kagame ukwiye kuzihindura;

-Amateka ya Nyundo uko nayabyemo kuva ku ngoma y’Ababiligi kugeza kuri jenoside yakorewe abatutsi muri Mata 1994;

-Ijoramateka ku nyandko zimwe zanditswe ku Mateka y’u Rwanda.

 

1.Ukuri ku Rubanza rwa Padiri Nturiye Edouard alias Simba

 

Mu gutangIra sinirirwa ngaruka ku Rubanza Padiri Simba na Padiri Kayiranga baciriwe ku Kibuye bagacirwa igihano cy’urupfu hanyuma Urukiko rw’Ubujurire rwa Ruhengeri rukabarekura,kuko rwabaye impitagihe,uretse ko ntigeze numva ukuntu iyo ntera iri hagati y’igihano cy’urupfu no kurekurwa burundu abacamanza ba Ruhengeri bayiremye nta bisobanuro bishingiye ku kwicwa kw’itegeko cyangwa se kwa procedure,bakihutira gushingira ku ngingo yatanzwe n’abapadiri ntavuze amazina, bagiye gushinjura abo bagenzi babo mu Ruhengeri,bemeza ngo „nta muntu wihaye Imana wagize uruhare muri jenoside“,abacamanza bakongeraho ngo naho abatangabuhamya ba mbere ni abantu babifitemo inyungu zabo bwite aliko ntibavuge izo nyungu izo ari zo.Ubwo se ko nabonye warishimiye imikirize y’Urubanza mu Ruhengeri usanga iyo ngingo ariyo? donc ari „ veritas info ko nta muntu wihaye IMANA wagize uruhare muri Jenoside? Ndagusaba ngo uzansubize iki kibazo.

                                    

 

Honorables Elie Ngirabakunzi na Murashi Izaie
Honorables Elie Ngirabakunzi na Murashi Izaie

Mbere y‘ uko unsubiza icyo kibazo aliko ndagira ngo nkubwire ukuri ku rubanza rwaciwe n’Inkiko Gacaca z’Imirenge ya Kimironko na Nyurugunga zatumwe gukorera ku Nyundo.Nkuko ubizi kandi byemerwa n‘ ISI YOSE Jenoside ni cyaha kidasaza. Aliko rero Itegeko Ngenga rigena imiterere n’imikorere y’Inkiko Gacaca rivuga ko iyo umuntu ukurikiranyweho icyaha cya jenoside yakatiwe n’inkiko zisanzwe adakurikiranwa n’Inkiko Gacaca,keretse iyo hari ingingo nshya,cyangwa se iyo ashinjwa n’abo bafatanyije icyaha.Aha rero Padiri Nturiye yabwiye Urukiko ko yakatiwe burundu n‘ inkiko zisanzwe,aliko mu mpaka zavutse kubera abatangabuhamya Urukiko rwasanze hari ingingo nshya ;muzo nibuka harimo gutegura jenoside, gushishikariza gukora jenoside.Ikindi kandi hariho abanyururu benshi bireze bemera icyaha bigaragaje basaba gushinja Padiri Simba. Ibi ni „ veritas info „kuri „procedure“ y’urubanza.

 

Tugiye rero ku miburanishirize y’Urubanza, nsanga ntakubwira ido n’ido uko urubanza rwagenze ,kuko ni urubanza rwabaye rurerure cyane rwagiye rumara muri buri cyiciro amasaha atari munsi y’atanu. Byongeye kandi si nacyo cyangombwa cyane kuko nabonye mu nyandiko icyo uvuga ari uko yarenganye biturutse kuri jyewe nshaka inyungu zanjye bwite nkuko Urukiko rw‘ Ubujurire rwa Ruhengeri rwabivuze.Urukiko rwa Ruhengeri ntirwasobanuye izo nyungu nari nkurikiranye izo ari zo aliko wowe uvuga ko nabitewe n’umujinya no gukurikirana umutungo. Iby’umujinya byo tubyihorere kuko nawe wishyize mu mwanya wanjye wawugira, aliko rero niba ushaka kuvuga ko nashatse kwihorera kuri Simba uraza gusanga ntaho bihuriye kuko mubyo nza kukwereka urabona aho ukuri guherereye, bikugaragarire ko bitagize aho bihuriye no kwihorera. Naho iby‘ imitungo byo, wowe ubwawe urivugira mu nyandiko yawe ko Padiri nta mitungo afite, kandi rero uzongere ubaze neza nta mitungo nigeze ndega Padiri Nturiye, ikindi kandi mw’Itegeko icyaha cy‘ubwicanyi n’iyangizwa ry’imitungo ntibiburanirwa hamwe.Imitungo iburanirwa muri Gacaca y’Akagali naho urubanza rw‘ ubwicanyi ruhera ku rwego rw’umurenge.

 

Kugirango nkwereke ko mu buhamya natanze kuri Padiri SIMBA yewe n’ubw’abandi bamutanzeho nta karengane kabaye,ndagirango tuganire ku ngingo zikurikira:

 

1-Padiri Nturiye yari ku NYUNDO mu iseminari kuva 1985 kugeza Mata 1994 ari Padiri Mukuru w’iryo Shuli. Iyo ni „veritas info“.

 

2-Jyewe n’umuryango wanjye twari dutuye hariya hafi ya Seminari kandi mu ntambara kuva Gashyantare 1991 iyo twaterwaga batwita ibyitso by‘ Inkotanyi twahungiraga mu Iseminari , Padiri Nturiye akatwakira. No ku italiki ya 07/04/1994 ni uko byagenze.Bivuze rero ko ubwicanyi bwa Jenoside bwatangiye turi mu rugo rwa Padiri NTURIYE. Ibi nabyo ni „veritas Info“.

 

3-Wowe,ndumva ntibeshya mu bantu twari kumwe ba bapadiri ,abafaratiri cg abalimu bandi ntiwarimo.Uwo munsi hari abapadiri benshi bari bamaze iminsi munama y’abapadiri bose ba diyosezi ya Nyundo, Inama bari bakunze kwita rukokoma.Muribo hari abari bacumbitse aho mu Iseminari. Mubo nibuka hari Padiri Adrien Nzanana nawe ukomoka hamwe na Padiri Nturiye muri Paroisse ya Nyange hariya hahiritswe Kiliziya muri Jenoside,hahoze ari Komini Kivumu,hari Padiri Ntiyamira Prosper, Padiri Bajyambere Martin,Padiri Gashema ,Padiri Karanganwa Straton, Padiri Mutabazi Denis Padiri Tuyishime Jean B. Abandi bari bacumbitse haruguru ku musozi kwa Musenyeri ,abandi bari baraye batashye muri za paroisse bakoragamo,kuko inama yari yarangiye kuwa 06/04/1994. Ibyo ari byo byose wowe ntiwari ku Nyundo,ushobora kuba wari i Cyangugu cg mu Nyakibanda.Kuba utari ku Nyundo nabyo ni „veritas info“.

 

4-Mu by’ukuri rero turumvikana ko kubera ko utari ku Nyundo aho SIMBA nanjye twari turi,uko nitwaye n’uko we yitwaye,ibyatubayeho n’ibyabaye hagati yanjye nawe ntubizi by’imvaho; yewe uretse we nanjye n’Imana yaje kubigaragaza ku buryo nza kukwereka ,ibyabaye hagati yanjye nawe ntawubizi mubo twari kumwe bakiriho.Uko wamenye amakuru y’ibyabereye ku Nyundo sinkuzi aliko ibyo ari byo byose ni inkuru mbarirano kandi baca umugani ngo inkuru mbarirano iratuba.Iki nacyo ni „veritas info“.

 

5-Ikindi kandi,Imanza za Gacaca zo ku Nyundo ziba, nabwo nzi neza ko utari uhari,haba ku rwego rwa mbere,haba mu bujurire.Aha naho ibyo uvuga sinzi uwabikubwiye,ibyo ari byo byose ni inkuru mbarirano.Iki nacyo ni „veritas info“.Bikaba bigaragara ko utakoze ubushakashatsi ngo ubone kugera kuri „VERITAS INFO“.Aha ndumva wajyaga kubaza Padiri Simba,ukabaza Jyewe,ukabaza abacamanza ba GACACA baruciye,cg se Urwego rukuriye Gacaca mu Gihugu,ukabaza abantu banyuranye bakurikiranye urwo Rubanza bahibereye,ugasesengura ukabona umwanzuro wegereye „veritasinfo“.Naho ubundi,umbabarire,ndasanga warahushije intego yawe ya „veritas info“ ku byo wise akarengane Padiri Nturiye yagiriwe.

 

6-Mubyo nashinje Padiri Nturiye rero niboneye n‘ amaso yanjye harimo uruhare rwe ,by’umwihariko,mu rupfu rwa mugenzi we, Padiri Adrien Nzanana.Maze rero dore uko byagenze: Interahamwe zagabye igitero cya mbere mu iseminari kuwa 07/04/1994 ku gicamunsi.Abari aho twese twakwiriye imishwaro, tugana ubwihisho. Jye nirukiye muri étage hariya hahoze haba abapadiri bera hejuru y’icyikoni cy’abanyeshuli. Icyumba ninjiyemo nagihuriyemo na Padiri SIMBA, Padiri NZANANA, professeur Rugwizangoga bitaga Rutaburishema. Padiri Nzanana na Rutaburishema bari bafite imihoro mu ntoki. Ni uko Padiri Simba abarebana agasuzuguro, maze arabwira ati:“ nimuzane iyo mihoro, ibyanyu byarangiye!“ Abonye ntacyo bamushubje arakomeza abahata amagambo y‘iterabwoba avuga ko bikoza ubusa akabo kashobotse iyo mihoro ntacyo ishobora kubamarira. Akomeje atyo rero Padiri Nzanana yagize ubwoba arasohoka,ako kanya akimara gufunga urugi rw’icyumba twarimo yahubiranye n’igihiriri cy‘ interahamwe zadushakishaga,zimwicira aho mu kirongozi(corridor), tubyumva.Ubwo kandi Padiri Simba niko yakomezaga kugerageza gufungura urugi nanjye nkamufata nkamukomeza kuko urumva nawe iyo ajya gufungura uko byari kutugendekera. Kuri ubwo buhamya namutanzeho imbere y’Urukiko Gacaca,Padiri Nturiye yemeye ko twari kumwe mu cyumba, aliko avuga ko Padiri Nzanana tutari kumwe ko yari mu kindi cyumba kirebana n’icyo twarimo,akaba arinaho interahamwe zamwiciye.

 

Iyo mvugo ye ntiyamuhiriye kuko nyuma yaho Urukiko rwa Kimironko rwakoreraga ku Nyundo ,rwahamagaje Padiri Ntiyamira Prosper, wari wahejwe amaze gusaba gushinjura mugenzi we Nturiye.Ubwo Urukiko rwaramubajije, amaze kurahira,ruti urashinja cyangwa urashinjura? Ati ndashinjura. Urukiko ruti none Padiri Nturiye mwari mwihishe hamwe? Ati oya aliko nari mu iseminali. Urukiko ruti none ko wari mu iseminari watubwira aho Padiri Nzanana yiciwe, niba ari mu cyumba cyangwa ari muri corridor? Padiri Ntiyamira ati yiciwe muri corridor.Imbaga y’abantu bose bari aho bariyamirira kuko bari bumvise ibyari byavuzwe mbere nanjye na Padiri Nturiye.Nawe urumva ko urubanza rwiciye,ni byo nakubwiye haruguru nti ibyabaye hagati yanjye na Nturiye byagaragajwe n‘ Imana. Ngiyo rero ahubwo „VERITAS“.

 

Ikindi cyagonze Padiri Nturiye, ni ukuntu yahunze ikigo yayoboraga akaduta aho mu kaga akisangira interahamwe,agakorana nazo.Uti byagene bite? Ubwo Interahamwe , muri icyo gitero cya mbere zishemo Padiri Nzanana Adrien na Padiri Twagirayezu Déo zasanze yihagarariye imbere y‘ icyumba cye,zahise zihabwa „commandement“ yo gusubira inyuma ziragenda.Zimaze kugenda haje aba „gendarmes“baca aho mubirongozi bagenda bahamagara ngo abatwumva mwese nimusohoke tugiye kubarinda ntawongera kubicamo.Twararungurutse dusanga ni aba „gendarmes“,kandi twumva hanze aho hafi hari ituze,noneho twese tuva mu bwihisho,dusanga abaduhamagaraga.          Aba „gendarmes“ baratubwiye ngo nitujye mu rusengero ruto ruri muri etage baturindiremo.Abana, abakobwa n’abagore binjiye bose muri rusengero aliko abenshi mu bagabo twagumye hanze duhagarara muri etage hafi y’urusengero. Twakomeje kuganira twibaza ibyo bintu ibyaribyo ,impamvu interahamwe noneho zaduteye aho mw’iseminari ubundi zajyaga zibitinya,twibaza igituma haje abo ba“gendarmes“ bakatubwira ngo duteranire hamwe barangiza bakigendera, tukibaza uwabahuruje,tukibaza impamvu noneho interahamwe zaje zica n’abapadiri zitajyaga zibatinyuka, tukibaza icyateye impanuka y’indege ya perezida Habyarimana,tukibaza niba interahamwe ziribugaruke mw’ijoro cyangwa niba zizagaruka   bukeye,tukibaza icyo turibukore noneho bamwe bati twitegure kwirwanaho, abandi bati tujye ku Nyundo ruguru kwa Musenyeri dusange yo abandi twigire hamwe icyo gukora.

 

Hagati aho nagiye kuri telefoni mpamagara Padiri Ntagara ku Gisenyi ,mubaza amakuru yaho arambwira ati byacitse,nti ese ntaburyo watabaza Kigali muri Minuar uciye muri Nonce apostolique cyangwa izindi ambassade? Padiri Ntagara yaranshubije ati ibintu birakomeye uko biboneka sicyo kimwe na mbere ,ati namenye ko ba Padiri b’i Rambura,Kageyo na ba Antoine bombi bishwe mu gitondo .Sinashoboye kumusezeraho kuko muri telefoni haje mo amajwi yandi y’abantu babwirana amakuru,numva umuntu w’i Gisenyi abwira uw’i Kigali ngo ibintu birashyushye ku Gisenyi ngo Coloneli Nsengiyumva Anatole yakoresheje inama muri gare ya Gisenyi arababwira ngo bagomba gushakira umusego ,umubyeyi wivuganywe n’Inyenzi.Uwo ku Gisenyi agaseka cyane,ati rero kuva ubwo twatangiye guhiga Inyenzi,ati twatangiriye kuri perefe w’Inyenzi witwa Semucyo,turamwivugana.Maze kumva ibyo nagize ubwoba nsanga ibyo Padiri Ntagara yambwiraga ari ukuri,telefoni nyikubita hasi niruka nsanga abandi kubabwira ko ibintu bitoroshye.Icyo gihe bwari bugorobye.

 

Muri ako kagoroba hari imbeho,uretse ko kubera ibihe twarimo jye nta mbeho numvaga,kandi niyo nyumva ntaho nari gushakira icyo kwifubika. Ni uko Padiri Nturiye alias Simba aratubwira ati ndumva nkonje ngiye gushaka icyo kwifubika.Ubwo yerekeje inzira yaho yarafite icyumba yararagamo ,aho kiba urahazi ni hariya hakurya hafi y’uburaro bw’abanyeshuli,hakaba atari hafi yaho twari turi.Nkuko ubyibuka aho twari turi ni igice kibamo etage y‘ amacumbi y‘ aba professeur b’abapadiri,aho abanyeshuri barira,n‘aho basengera.Hagati yaho ngaho naho Padiri Mukuru w’iseminari yabaga hamwe n’uburaro bw‘ abanyeshuri ngereranyije hari nka metero magana ane kandi hakaba hahana urubibi n’igiturage cy’ahitwa ku Runande hariya hari hatuye Député Ngaruye,se wa Député Tuyishime Brigitte. Ubwo twe twagumye aho tukiri mu gihirahiro,hashize nk’iminota mirongo itatu interahamwe ziradutera zizanye na Padiri NTURIYE. Tukizibona twakwiriye imishwaro,nazo zari zatubonye ariko aho kudukurikira,zaboneje mu Rusengero ahari abana, abakobwa abagore n’abagabo twari kumwe bakirukirayo.Interahamwe zabirayemo zirabatemagura mu minota mike zirakinjura zisubira iyo zavuye.

 

Mu kanya nkako guhumbya,interahamwe zirangije gutema no kwararika zigiye, twumva aba“gendarmes“ bagarutse gukina wa mukino wabo,baraduhamagara ngo nidusohoke tuze baturinde ntawongera kutwica.Kuko ntawe uburana n’umuhamba twavuye aho twitwaga ngo turihishe,twabanje kureba mu Rusengero dusanga ishyano ryaguye.Jye nasanze abana banjye   bane uko ubazi batemwe bose byarangiye, umugore wanjye bari bamutemye mu nsina y‘ ugutwi ariko akiri muzima.Mwalimu wawe Alfred nawe bari bamutemye amaboko, aliko akivuga ni nawe watubwiye amazina y’interahamwe zimwe twari tuzi zabatemye.Ubwo abo ba „gendarmes“bari bafite imodoka batangira gudutunda batujyana ruguru kwa Musenyeri,yewe n’izo nkomere zacu barahazidusangisha.Iryo joro ryose,twaraririye inkomere zacu, ababikira ba baganga bakoranaga n’umugore wanjye hariya kuri maternité,uzi ko umugore wanjye yari umuganga, bagerageza uko bashoboye ngo bazirokore ,ariko zimwe ziraducika,harimo na mwalimu wawe Alfred Nsengiyumva.Umugore wanjye we bwakeye ameze neza,hasigaye igikomere kiboneka ko kizakira. Mu gitondo nka satatu abari hanze badutumyeho bati abashoboye nimusohoke.Tugeze hanze MYR kalibushi yaratubwiye ati mwitegure gupfa ibintu bimeze nabi ,amakuru ava hanze aratubwira ko tugiye guterwa,ati aliko ntimutege amajosi, mupfe murwana ntihazabura n’uwo kubara inkuru.Yaratubwiye ati jyeweho ndaguma mu biro byanjye ,aliko mwese n’abandi baza kuduhungiraho mujye mu Kiliziya nini mwifungirane ababatera murwane nabo,mubabuza gufungura inzugi.

 

Uretse abihaye Imana n’abakozi hari kandi abaturage benshi b’impunzi,abatutsi bavuye mu Bigogwe bari bamaze umwaka ku Nyundo,hari n‘abatutsi baturutse muri Rubavu.Twari rero abantu benshi cyane twashoboraga kwirwanaho.Ubwo twese twinjiye muri Kiliziya Nkuru(Cathédrale),inkomere zacu tuzishyira inyuma hariya mu cyumba abapadiri bajya gusoma misa bambarira(sacristie),dufunga inzugi zigana hanze zose.Hariho aliko abasigaye hanze mu gikari kwa Musenyeri, nabo bafunga inzugi zigana hanze. Mbere yaho aliko abakuru b’interahamwe babanje kuza batwara abanyamahanga bose n’Abihaye Imana b’abanyrwanda baba mu miryango y’abanyamahanga.Musenyeri Kalibushi nawe baramutwaye,bamujyana mu irimbi ryo ku Gisenyi biciragamo abatutsi,batangiye kumucuza Coloneli Nsengiyumva araza arababuza, atwara Musenyeri Kalibushi muri Hotel Meridien.

 

Mbere yo gutwara Musenyeri ,izo nterahamwe zabanje kutuzungurakamo zireba uko tungana,zidutuka ,zitunnyega,zitwaka amafaranga,zirangije ziragenda,umusirikare umwe witwa Eugène arasa mu kirere,atanga signal yo kudutera.Interehamwe uruhuri zahise zitera, zisanga inzugi zose zifunze.Zamaze umwanya zirwana no gufungura ,amaherezo zishobora gufungura urugi runini rwa Cathedrale. Zagerageje kwinjira zisanga twazibambiye tuzakiriza amabuye n’amacupa n’amategura twaritwarunze byinshi cyane.Twari dufite avantage kurizo, kuko umuryango wari umwe kandi ari muto kurizo zari uruhuri, kandi ziri ahazamuka, twe turi ahirengeye.Abari mu gikari nabo bari ahirengeye kandi bo barebana banavugana nazo.Zikabwira MYR Hategeka ,Igisonga cya MYR Kalibushi, ngo nawe koko MYR uradutera amabuye, kandi uri umubyeyi wacu! Ngo rwose waturetse tukaza tukabaramutsa! Natwe zikaduhamagara ngo nimufungure tujye kubahisha! Ni uko twarwanye nazo umunsi wose bigeza nimugoroba zananiwe kutwinjirana.Zibonye tumaze kwica imwe muri zo tuyambuye imbunda ya kalachnikov zirahomboka ziragenda,zijya gushaka renfort.

 

Bukeye bwaho,taliki ya 9, mu gitondo cya kare zagabye ikindi gitero zifite imbunda na grenades byinshi ,zahuruje izo mu Bushiru, Ramba , Ruhengeri n‘ i Kigali, ku buryo abari hanze babibonaga baratubwiye bati uriya Musozi wa NYUNDO wari wuzuye abantu ku buryo byasaga   n’ishyamba bahateye.Twarongeye turwana nazo ,zimwe zanuriye zishaka gusambura ngo zice mu gisenge ,izindi zifite amafuni zihinga amatafari ari hafi y’ibizingiti by’inzugi, aliko birazinanira.Bigeze nyuma ya sasita zimwe zashoboye kwinjira mu gikari zihica abariyo batashoboye kuduhungiraho,zihavuye zashoboye kwinjira muri sacristie zitwicira inkomere twari twahashyize,harimo n’umugore wanjye. Bugorobye,interahamwe zarongeye zirahomboka ziragenda,zisimburwa n’aba „gendarmes“ benshi cyane,na perefe wa Gisenyi ngo baje kuduhumuriza! Kuduhumuriza nawe uramva kari agakino ko kuza kutuneka ngo bamenye abapfuye n’abasigaye bamenye uko bakomeza gahunda yabo kutumara.

 

Nyuma y’iminsi ibiri batubwira ibyo, natwe ntitwari tukibyemera kuko twari tumaze gupfusha abantu batagira ingano.Mvuze gusa abapadiri kuko aribo uzi, twari tumaze gupfusha icumi bose.Uretse babandi babiri b‘ikubitiro bo mw’iseminari nakubwiye mbere, haje kwiyongeraho umunani, aribo: Padiri Herman Mwambali, Edouard Gakwandi,Clément Kanyabusozo,Ferdinand Karekezi,Callixte Kalisa,Aloys Nzaramba,Silas Gasake na Gashema.Ubwo simvuze ababikira,abana b’impinja abakobwa b’inkumi ,abasore, abagabo ,abasaza n’abakecuru bamwe bari banashaje cyane; hanyuma ngo baraduhumuriza! Ahubwo kwari ukuduhuma amaso nyabuna! Ubwo muri iryo girwahumure twashoboye kwegeranya abantu bacu bapfuye bari aho mu gikari, hanze no mu mazu ,aliko kubashyingura urabyumva ko byari ibadashoboka. Twaraye aho muri ako kaga,bukeye interahamwe ntizagaruka ahubwo haza abasilikare bakuru barimo uwitwa Bizumuremyi alias Rutuku, aba“gendarmes“ bayobowe n’umukuru wabo Major Biganiro,na Perefe wa Gisenyi Banyurwabuke.Baraje bongera kutubwira ngo ntawongera kudutera kandi bagiye guhungisha abihaye Imana barokotse bashobore kubona ibyangombwa bizatuma bashobora kujya i Burayi. Kubera ko nari navunitse cyane, abapadiri bansabiye umu“gendarme umwe wari uziranye na Padiri Kashyengo nawe wari wakomeretse.

 

Uwo mu „gendarme“ yabanje kwanga ,aliko agezeho aravuga ati ngwino tugende,ntazabazwa amaraso yawe,ati aliko sinzi ko urenga barrières ziri hariya.Tugeze mu nzira kuri barrière nagize Imana,controle ikorwa n’umu „gendarme „ washatse kunkura mu modoka,aliko abonye ndashobora guhaguruka,yongera izina ryanjye kuri liste y’abihayimana.Turagenda turenga barrières zose tugera muri Hotel Meridien ku Gisenyi ,aho MYR Kalibushi yari ari hamwe na Padiri Dominiko wari wamanukanywe n‘ interahamwe kubera Padiri Simba . Twaje kumenya ko Padiri Simba yatumye interahamwe mu gitondo 8/4/1994 zijya kumukura aho twari twazamukanye ku Nyundo zimusubiza mu Iseminari aho mu cyumba cye ahambira ibintu bye byose zimujyana ku Gisenyi. Ibi byose nabikubwiye atari gushaka kurondogora ahubwo kwari ukugirango nshobore kukumvisha ibya Padiri Simba wari Padiri Mukuru wa Seminari, wabarizwaga mu byegera bya Myr Kalibushi,wari ufite inshingano zikomeye mu gihe cy’amahoro,utarahigwaga n’interahamwe,agahunga abamuhungiyeho,agahunga kuri shebuja wamwizeye,agasanga abicanyi agakorana nabo ku Nyundo,yarangiza ibyaho akajya i NYANGE iwabo yagerayo kiliziya yaho ikarimburwa,irimbukanye abatutsi 2000 bari bayihungiyemo.

 

Nguwo Padiri Simba ukuriza ngo ararengana.Ngarutse rero ku bye,uribuka ko nari nakubwiye haruguru ko yadusize avuga ngo agiye gushaka icyo kwifubika, akagenda agiye agakorana ku mugaragaro n’interahamwe,akaziyobora neza aho abantu benshi bacu bari barundanyijwe yarangiza akisubirirayo,bwacya agakomeza akazi ko kuyobora interahamwe. Ibyo nkubwira byose byamenyekaniye muri GACACA,bihamijwe n’abanyururu,twahuriye aho muri Gacaca.Abanyururu muri Gacaca bashinje Padiri Simba ,we amaze kubeshya Urukiko Gacaca ko yagiye gushaka icyo kwfubika,hanyuma akagira ubwoba akihisha muri toilettes bugacya,bwamara gucya akadusanga ku Nyundo,tukirwanaho dutera amabuye interahamwe,aliko ntarenze aho avuga uko twagiye ku Gisenyi tutari kumwe nawe.Ukuri kurimo ni uko mu gitondo 8/4/1994? Yagiye agafata imodoka ye akazamuka ku Nyundo ayoboye interahamwe gushaka Padiri Dominiko NGIRABANYIGINYA,hanyuma akamukana n’interahamwe akagumana nazo,agakorana nazo.Mu nshamke rero abanyururu bashinje Padiri Simba ibi bikurikira:

 

-Kujya mu nama muri MAHOKO;

-Gucumbika kwa Mwalimu Mwambutsa kuva 8/4/1944 kugeza agiye i NYANGE;

-gusomera misa interahamwe kuri Sanzare buri gitondo;         

-Kujya ku Gisenyi mu irimbi ajyanye n’interahamwe zigiye kwica MYR KALIBUSHI;

-Kwimikwa n’interahamwe zikamwambika imyenda y’abasenyeri zikamugira MYR w’umuhutu wa Nyundo.

 

Ibi byose Padiri Simba ntiyigeze abyiregura ku buryo bufatika.Ahubwo bimwe yagendaga abyemera,urugero nibuka yemeye ko yabaga kwa Mwambutsa, akahava ajya i Nyange ngo Kiliziya igatembazwa bari mu munsi mukuru banywa inzoga.

 

Ikindi nibuka cyamugonze, Inyangamugayo ya Gacaca yamubajije ibibazo bibiri mu bujurire,hamwe abura icyo asubiza, ahandi arabyiyemerera:

 

-Ubwa mbere yaramubajije ati uko ubyibuka,hagati y’igihe jenoside yatangiriye n’igihe yarangiriye, waherukaga kubonana na Mryr Kalibushi ryari? Padiri yarashubije ati numva naraherukaga kumubona mbere y‘ uko ubwicanyi bwa jenoside butangira nkongera kumubona duhungutse tuvuye Zayire.Umucamanza ati none se nk’umuntu wari mu byegera bya MYR Kalibushi wari ugufitiye icyizere,kandi ukaba utarahigwaga,kandi we akaba yarahigwaga ,wumva nta buhemu bukubarwaho? Padiri yabuze icyo asubiza araceceka.

 

-Ubwa kabiri yarasubiriye aramubaza ati abo bapadiri bagenzi bawe bapfuye,ko mwari musangiye ibanga ry’ubusaserdoti kandi mwarabanye,hari n’umwe watubwira ,mu kuri, waba wari wasomera misa? Padiri yavugishije ukuri ati ndumva ntawe.

 

Uko mbyibuka ,kandi si inkuru mbarirano,ibi bibazo ni byo byapfundikiye urubanza mu bujurire,hanyuma Urukiko ruriherera ,nyuma yo kwiherera rumumenyesha ko rwafashe icyemezo cyo ku gumishaho icyemezo cya mbere c’igihano cyo kumufunga burundu.

 

Ngibyo iby’urubanza rwa Padiri NTURIYE alias SIMBA.Uko rwaburanywe n’uko rwaciwe bikaba byarakurikije Itegeko rishyiraho kandi rigena imikorerere y’Inkiko Gacaca.

Nkaba ngirango nsoze iyi Nkuru ngusaba kuyisoma witonze, warangiza ukayikorera isesengura uyigereranya n’ibyo wumvise mbere,hanyuma ugasubira ku mwanzuro wa mbere wo kuvuga ko Padiri afunze arengana,kandi biturutse kuri jyewe.Ndangije nongera kugusaba gushishoza ukareka inkuru mbarirano zaguteye kubogama.

Ubutaha nzagusobanurira igituma kwemera Gacaca atari icyaha gikomeye habe na gato.

 

Ngusezeyeho nkwifuriza amahoro y’IMANA.

Murashi Isaie

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

 

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  • #111

    Akana (mercredi, 13 juillet 2011 22:04)

    Tu sais que t'as fait assassiner mon père je voulais que tu le saches

  • #110

    A toi Murashi (mercredi, 13 juillet 2011 21:37)

    Bwana Murashi jusqu'à quand?? est ce que tu trouves pas que t'as assez fais du mal comme ça au cœurs des gens moi je pense que tu devrais arrêter les mensonges ne vont pas guérir tes blessures hélas

  • #109

    Impongo (dimanche, 12 juin 2011 15:37)

    Ariko, aho bwana Murashi nabagenzi be, mujya mumenya ko izi nyandiko zanyu zizakoreshwa mubutabera? murarye muri menge!! agapfa kaburiwe.....

  • #108

    kuri nsubize prof. murashi #104 (samedi, 11 juin 2011 08:56)


    Umubyeyi wawe ni uwo gushimirwa: yitwaye butwari mu gihe ibintu byari bikomeye. Muri iki gihe usanga abantu birengagiza kwibuka ukuntu ibintu byari bishyushye icyo gihe. Hari abahutu benshi bishwe kubera ko banze gutanga abatutsi, ndetse ngo hari n'umubikira ku Gisenyi wanze gutanga abatutsi bari kumwe maze baramwica kandi uwatanze uburenganzira bw'uko yicwa ngo ni musaza we w'umusirikari wo mu rwego rwo hejuru. Kubera ko byashakuje ndumva abantu benshi bamuzi n'ubwo njye ntibuka izina ry'uwo musirikari.

    Hari na padiri Emile Nsengiyumva wo muri paruwasi ya Rwamagana wabaye intwari mu gihe cy'intambara, ndetse na nyuma yayo agakomeza gufasha imfubyi z'abana babuze ababyeyi babo. Yakomeje kuba intwari kuko muri kiriya gihe leta yari itangiye gusenyera abakene yahise abyamagana. Icyo leta yakoze ni ukumufata ikajya kumubika mu ibohero. None ko Murashi n'abandi usanga batera hejuru ngo kanaka ntiyabatabaye mu gihe byari bikomeye, kuki batagerageza kurenganura inzirakarengane zirimo gushinyagurirwa mu magereza? None se ko ibintu ari gatebe gatoki, igihe iyi ngoma ya Kagame izaba yahiritswe twe ntabwo tuzaba dufite uburenganzira bwo kubabaza impamvu bituramiye kandi bari bafite ubushobozi bwo kugira icyo bakora?

  • #107

    @Umushobyo #106 (samedi, 11 juin 2011 08:36)


    Kuba Murashi avuga ko yasomye inyandiko ya Thomas kuri "veritasinfo.fr) byo ni ukuri. Inyandiko zisohokera kuri uru rubuga banazishyira kuri veritasinfo.fr (no ku zindi mbuga), kubera ko Kagame yari yibasiye uru rubuga adashaka ko abari mu Rda basoma ibihandikirwa. Ikindi kandi Murashi ntabwo yari kwerura ku mugaragaro ko asoma leprophete: wibuke ko arimo ashaka umuriro kugira ngo Kagame yongere amuterere utwo kurigata. Murashi ni insabirizi iri aho ngaho, inkomamashyi yuzuye.

  • #106

    Umushobyo (samedi, 11 juin 2011 00:09)

    Ijambo rimwe rirahagije ga ngo ubone ko Murashi ari umubeshyi. Mu nyandiko yandikiye P Thomas, arita uru rubuga Veritas. Nije warebye nabi, hari ahanditse Veeritas kuri uru rubuga? Ibi bihita bigaragaza ko iyi nyandiko yayikoze agamije ubugome no guharabaika, bigaragarira mu kwirengagiz nkana ko urubuga rwitwa leprophete akishyiriraho iryo yishakiye.

  • #105

    byihorere (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 23:48)

    Murashi ashobora kuba afite ukuri ntitubyirengagize ariko uburyo abivugamo biragaragaza ko harimo n'ikibazo kitari génocide ashobora kuba afitanye n'uyu mupadiri!! Ahubwo reka mwibwirire ikintu kimwe: Iyo utaza kuba umututsi, tuvuge ukaba wari umuhutu washakanye n'uriya mututsikazi, ubu uba urimo kuwunera kuko ntabwo Gacaca uko tuzizi wari kuzemeza ko wowe warokotse ngo madame mwamushyize inyuma muri sachristie (Ehe ibyo ku muhutu bahita bavuga ko yari ariwe wamuhamagariye abishi). Isomo: MUMENYE KO UKO MWUBUBAGA MUHISHA AMAGARA YANYU N'ABAHUTU BATARI INTERAHAMWE YEWE NIBAMENYE NIBIVUGIRWA MURI POLITIKI BARI BAFITE UBWO BWOBA. Ahubwo twanavuga ko abatutsi (atari bose) bari bafite amakuru aruta ay'interahamwe kubyarimo biba ikibazo cyabaye kimwe "ABATUTSI BABAYE NKA WA MWANA WABAJIJE NYINA NGO BYA BINDI TUBITEKEMO UMURETI" nyamara uwo yashakaga kubihisha yahise abivumbura.
    Umwanzuro:
    FPR itera abatutsi bake ba Gashakabuhake bari bazi ko nta n'umuhutu uzongera gukopfora. Byagaragaraga ku ma liste twasangaga mu mazu yabo ese mutabeshye ziriya liste zari iziki?

  • #104

    NSUBIZE PROFESSEUR WANJYE ISAIE MURASHI (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 20:56)



    Wanyigishije muri Lycee y'abakobwa mu mwaka wa gatatu n'uwa kane, ariko jye nahavuye muri decembre 1990 sinagaruka njya kwiga ahandi.

    Ku giti cyange watubereye mwarimu mwiza wigishaga, nabonaga nta kibazo. Waba se wari ufite ibibazo bya hutu- tutsi muri wowe sinabimenya kuko jyewe n'icyo gihe nta bwoko bwange nari nzi, kuko iwacu nta wari yarigeze atubwira ibyo bintu, yaba na ba sogokuru/nyogokuru b'impande zombi bari bakiriho kandi basheshe akanguhe!

    Inkuru yawe rero nayisomye ariko mu bintu byinshi wagiye uvuga, niba nibuka neza nta byinshi wiboneye n'amaso yawe mu byo wavuze by'uriya mupadiri NTURIYE alias SIMBA.

    Kuvuga ngo abanyururu baramushinje. ndagirango nkubwire ko bishobora kuba 100 % baramushinje ibinyoma. Ndaguha urugero nzi neza:

    Muri genocide 1994, PAPA wange yari umuyobozi wa segiteri. Yakoze uko ashoboye kose abasha guhisha abatutsi benshi, benshi, abandi akaboherereza icyangombwa cy'inzira, benshi babashije gukira. Ariko usoma wese abyitondere, DATA ntabwo yari igitangaza, kandi utarashoboye kugira uwo ahisha sinamuveba kuko byari bikomeye mwese murabizi cyanee.

    FPR aho iziye, data yarafunzwe imyaka myinshi ngo yishe abantu! Biturutse ku bantu bagize uruhare mu kwica abandi, barafashwe, barafungwa, baratotezwa cyane, maze kubera ko DATA myuma abaturage bateye hejuru bati niwe dushaka ngo yongere atuyobore, ubwo asubira ku buyobozi atyo, ntabwo ari uko yabishakaga!

    Ba banyururu bati muradukubita kandi ari uriya mukonseiller watwohereza kicwa abantu? Nuko umusaza aba arafunzwe, amara imyaka muri mabuso nta na dossier, ariko hariho abatutsi b'inyangamugayo bagiye kumushinjura arafungurwa. Ariko na none hagati aho ba banyururu bahuriye muri gereza, bararira bamusaba imbabazi ko bamubeshyeye, baranabyandikisha ko babeshye! Ubwo rero nuko PAPA yagize gikurikirana, naho ubundi nubu aba akirimo!

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    Mumenye neza ko nta ngoma zidahanguka uretse INGOMA Y'IMANA YONYINE!!!

    Biriya ngo ntiyasomeye misa abantu, mri iriya situation uretse kwigiza nkana, byari gushoboka bite?

    Niyo kandi aza kugira uwo asomera misa, nubundi mwari kubimurega muvuga ko yaje kubishima hejuru murimo mwicwa nabyo bikaba ikibazo gikomeye kimucisha umutwe!
    Kandi na none kuba nta misa yaba yarasomeye abantu bishwe cg bari mu kaga icyo gihe, ndumva bigomba kubazwa na kiliziya birebana n'amategeko ngenderwaho ntabw ibyo birebana na politike!

    Tuvugishe ukuri, GACACA nta hantu na hamwe nzi ngo yaciye imanza neza ahubwo yaje kumara rubanda. Ku musozi w'iwacu nk'ubu hari abantu bari bihishe batasohokaga, ariko kubera ko bari bafite imitungo kandi bakaba badahari, abarokotse barashaka gutwara ibintu byabo bavuga ngo abo bantu barasahuye!!!

    JYEWE sinshyigikiye umwicanyi uwo ari we wese yaba umuhutu yaba umututsi cg umutwa, kuko nta muntu n'umwe wavukiye kwicwa. IMANA NIYO ITANGA UBUZIMA NI NAYO IBWAKA IGIHE ISHAKIYE!

    MON professeur rero, ni wowe wo kwibaza ukongera ukisubiza kuko niba warashinje umuntu ibinyoma ube ubizi ko ku munsi w'amateka uzabibazwa.

    Ngaho ibihe byiza kuri mwese.

  • #103

    gato (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 20:37)

    mbwire#84,
    rwose ntimukajye mukabwa. Kubwira Murashi ko kuba abana be bane n'umugorewe barapfuye ari ikiguzi cy'uko yari ashyigikiye inkotanyi, ndumva ari ugukomeretsa umuntu ugakabya. Koko!!! ubwo umwana wo mu Ruhengeli ababyeyi be bapfuye muri 1997-1998 watinyuka ukamubwira ngo ni ikiguzi cy'uko abacengezi bari bateye!!! Kabisa tujye tugerageza kuba abantu. Reka ariko nkubwire njye uko mbibona,kuba hari abari bashyigikiye inkotanyi, sicyo mbona ko cyari ikibazo. Icyo wakwibaza ni iki,Ese kuki bazishyigikiraga? ese abari bashyigikiye inkotanyi barutanga umubare abari bashyigikiye leta yari ho? Kuki inkotanyi zatsinze urugamba?
    Maze rero inama njye nari kubagira iyo muza kunyumva, kwari ukurindira ibyo byitso aho byari byahungiye (dore ko byose byari byibereye ku makiriziya n'amakomini), ntihagire icyitso cyongera guhura n'inkotanyi, mukabirindisha izo nterahamwe zanyu, hanyuma abasirikari bakajya ku rugamba kurwana n'inkotanyi, na ndetse n'izo ntera hamwe zari kugenda, ibyo byitso bikarindwa n'abaturage dore ko nta mbunda byari bifite. Hanyuma inyenzi mukazisubiza aho zateye zituruka tukareba aho zizongera guhurira n'ibyo byitso. Kuki ataribyo mwakoze, mwarangiza mugatera u Rwanda akaga mumena amaraso angana kuriya(ndavuga abicanye n'ababashyigikiye). Nyamara mujye muceceka amagambo nk'ariya!!!!Ni kimwe n'uriya #93, ngo iyo abatutsi bataba nobles!!!? Noblesse yahe? Ni bake nzi bashoboye kurenga akababaro kababayeho bakitwara kimuntu. Ntacyo mwarushize cyane abo mwita abahutu (kuko nabo habonetse abitwaye ki noble, banga kwanduza igihugu cyabo nyamara ntimubizirikana). Kuvuga rerro ngo nta muhutu wari gusigara (mumbarire njye sinkunda izi mvugo za hutu tutsi), ndagusabye ngo ujye wirinda ayo magambo, ntuzi ibiri mu mitima y'abantu. Icyo nzi cyo ni uko ukuri kw'ibyabaye ukuzi.
    Mugire amahoro

  • #102

    manzi (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 20:34)


    kuri #96, #97:

    Comments zanyu zirimo ibintu byinshi, ndetse numvaga umuntu wese usura uru rubuga yagombye kuzisoma nibura inshuro ebyiri. Uriya mudamu, Nyinawagaga Claudine ashobora kuba yaraciye ibintu. Nk'uko #97 abivuga, nyamara bishobora kuba bitanaramuhiriye.

  • #101

    St Pie X (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 19:08)

    Genda Murashi urandagije neza neza!!!
    Niko se mwa bantu mwe koko murabona u Rwanda rugana he? Murashi yihanukire nta soni ashinje ku mugaragaro ibintu n’umwana muto yavumbura ko ari ibinyoma ? Dore ikinyoma nanjye nkaba umuntu:
    Murashi ngo yafashe padiri Nturiye aramuherana amubuza gufungura urugi.Ubwo se ibyo ntibihagije kumvikana ko Nturiye atari kuguma mu cyumba hamwe na Murashi cyane cyane ko hari n’imihoro? Ni iki se cyatwemeza ko iyo mihoro itashoboraga gukoreshwa na Murashi agatema Nturiye? Erega amagara aryana kimwe. Ikindi ntitwibagirwe ko Murashi yari umukozi w’Inyenzi twese abigaga ku Nyundo twari tubizi. Niba rero Nturiye (Simba) nawe yari abizi ntabwo yashoboraga kuguma mu cyumba kimwe na Murashi. Ibi rero Murashi abiheraho agashinja Simba ko kuba yarasohotse yari agiye gufatanya n’interahamwe. Ubwo se Murashi koko urumva nta soni biguteye?
    Kuba Simba yaba ataravuze ko Nzanana yaguye muri corridor akavuga ko yaguye mu cyumba se bivuga ko ariwe wamwishe? Yego wenda aha wabiheraho uvuga ko ubwo avuze ikinyoma n’ibindi avuga nta wabyemera.Ariko icyo ntigihagije ngo umuntu acirwe burundu. Reka nkugarukeho: uti nafashe telephone maze ivugirwamo n’indi umuntu wa Kigali avugana n’uwa Gisenyi….ababababa! ese wahinduye izina ukitwa Semuhanuka? Ubwo se ni he twahera twemera ibintu nk’ibi? Kuba utabasha gutanga ibimenyetso bifatika kuri iyi telephone, birampa uburenganzira bwo kutemera n’ibindi byose uvuga.
    Padiri Simba arashinjwa kwica cg se kugira uruhare mu kwica Abatutsi akongera agashinjwa kudasomera missa abo yicishije: ibi babyita incompatibilité. Kuko ntiwakwica umuntu ngo unamugirire urukundo rwo kumusomera missa. Ib FPR nibyo ikoresha kugira ngo yongere umubare w’ibiregonone byashingiweho bituma Simba akatirwa gufungwa burundu. Genda Simba warahuye!
    Padiri Simba arashinjwa kudasura Musenyeri Kalibushi ibi bikaba icyaha gituma akatirwa: ese iryo tegeko ni nyabaki?
    Ngo abanyururu bisabiye gushinja Nturiye:Murashi wavuze ko wabashyizeho igitugu ngo bashinje? nkurikije umwanya w’umudepite wari ufite (wenda n’ubu uracyawufite sinzi) Murashi nta munyururu washobora kujya imbere ngo avuguruze ibyo uvuga kereka utazi system ya FPR. Ikindi ngo ni wowe na Simba n’Imana mwenyine muzi ibyabaye aho mwari muri: none se kuki unyumvisha ko Simba abeshya ukambwira ko wowe uvuga ukuri?Imana se yaje mu rubanza yemeza intego GACACA ko ari wowe utabeshya? Iyo urubanza rumeze gutya hakaba nta mugabo wo guhamya ibyo umwe mu baburana avuga, nta bimenyetso bihagije biba bihari. Uregwa ahita agirwa umwere.
    Simba ngo yasomeye missa Interahamwe: ababababa! Ariko mwagiye mushyira mu gaciro koko? Gusoma missa ni ko kazi ka padiri. Ubwo se yagiye guhamagara interahamwe ngo nizize mu missa maze yirukana abandi bakirisitu?
    Murashi rero ndagusaba gutanga ibimenyetso bifatika ko padiri Simba yakoranye n’Interahamwe kuko kuba yaragiye akava aho mwari muri nta kimenyetso kivuga ko kutaba hamwe nawe bivuga kuba interahamwe. Keretse niba ari ihame ridakuka ushaka ko dufata tukaryakira dutyo. Kuba Interahamwe zaba zaramufashe zikamwambika imyenda ya musenyeri (n’ubwo uri uwa mbere mbyumvanye kuko iyo myambaro yari yambawe n’interahamwe yitwa Kidume) nawe ari wowe iyo ziza kugufata zikayikwambika ntiwari kubumbura umunwa. Keretse niba utazi Interahamwe zo muri Mata 1994. Icyo zavugaga nta wakopforaga byari “ndiyo bwana”.
    Icyakora ndagushimira ko wagize ubutwari bwo kwemera dialogue. N’ubwo ukivuga ibinyoma, ntacyo bizaza,n’iyo wakwivuguruza ariko ukitangira ukuri. Ntubona uko ba Nyamwasa bari kubigenza? Bageze aho bitandukanya n’ikinyoma n’ubwo bitabahanaguraho ibyaha by’intambara baregwa ariko umutima wabo uragenda ubohoka gahoro gahoro. Ntegereje igice gikurikiraho ariko uzagabanye ibinyoma.

  • #100

    Twumvikane (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 18:54)

    Nyakubahwa Honorable Murashi,
    Nkunze ko icyo gihe ayo marorerwa aba wari umwarimu. Ibyo mwigishaga simbizi, aliko icyo wigisha cyose ntacyakubuzaga, urebye urwego warimo, gusesengura ngo urebe impamvu yateye aliya mahano.
    Hali umuntu wavuze ko Inkotanyi zitera yari muli 6ème latine mu Seminari, ko akuzi icyo gihe wigisha muli Lycée y'abakobwa, ko akwibuka uvugwa mu bantu bajyaga bavugwaho kugenderana n'abana bateraga imvuru mu mashuli.
    Ibyabaye mu Rwanda muli 1994 narabirebaga ndi muli Komnini iwacu aho navukiye. Nyuma ya taliki 6 Mata nta mutegetsi wari ugifite ijambo mu butegetsi bwe. Ko abategetsi b'abakomini bari basanzwe bafite abapolisi nta bushobozi bari bagifite, uliya Padri Simba yari afite ubushobozi buhe bwo kubarinda amabandi yari yariye kagungu? Kuki utibaza impamvu yatumye ayo mahano aba, igihugu kijya mu icuraburindi? Kuki utegera Nyirubutungane Paul Kagame, wakugize Honorable, ngo umubaze icyamuteye kuba intandaro yo kugirango umuryango wawe urimbuke? Niba utaragisoma kuko kidashobora kwemererwa kugera mu Rwanda, uzajye mu gihugu cyo hanze usome igitabo cyanditswe na Abdul Ruzibiza, Lieutenant-garde de corps wa Paul Kagame, uzahamenyeramo ukuri wirengagiza kumenya.
    Komera muvandimwe munyarwanda.

  • #99

    MURASHI Ingrant! (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 17:34)

    Ntekereza ko padri NTURIYE yemeye urwaje kuko utari we wenyi!
    Naho gutakambira uyu mwicanyi MURASHI byaba ari uguta igihe kandi ntekereza ko padri atazapfa abikoze. Erega we yemera ko inyuma y'urupfu hari ubundi buzima!

    Njye mpora mbabwira ko nta wyiturano y'aba bantu. RUSESABAGINA ntibamumenesheje yararokoye ibihumbi! Nturiya yabakiraga kuva kera, ariko ngo 94 yabaye umwicanye! Uri ingrant wa mugabo we!

    None se ko uvuga ngo yagize uruhare mu rupfu rwa Nzanana, ariko ntaho uvuga ko yageze amusohora muri icyo cyumba mwarimo!

    None se, ujya utekereza iyo interahamwe ziza Nzanana akabasha gukwira imishwaro, [nkuko ubivuga mwabikoze, nyuma bakica abasigaye muri chapelle],maze mwe zikabasanga muri icyo cyumba (simbibifuriza bien entendu!), ubu se Nzanana we wenda ntaba avuga ko NTURIYE yakubujije gusohoka, kugeza aho babasanze muri iyo chambre?

    Mais sinabura ku gushimira kuri iyi nkuru nziza, yerekana ubuhamya bukoreshwa mu GACACA, kubatarabashije kuzibonera n'amaso. Kandi ndizera iyi ari inyandiko, kuko en réalité iyo muri kuvuga ibinyemoma nta binya mugira, surtout ko nta nuwabavuguruza, u Rwanda ni urwanyu uy'umunsi!

    Imana ibarinde, gusa ujye wibuka nibura gushimara Imana, kuko niyo itanga ubuzima.

  • #98

    Mujyanama (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 15:13)

    Murashi we, uzi neza ko Padiri Ntuliye ari umurwayi wa Diyabeti ikaze.
    Naramuka aguye mu buroko, uzunguka iki ko nta n'imitungo agira yo kwishyura izo ndishyi ushaka?
    N'aho ubucamanza bw'abantu butagira icyo bugutwara, urahamya neza ko Imana yo itazamukubaza? Ongera utekereze neza, uhitemo igikwiye. Reka uriya musaza azazire ikindi kitaguturutseho. Ntacyo uzaba uhombye.

  • #97

    Kuri Murashi n'abakunzi ba leprophete (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 15:05)


    Bwana Murashi watubwiye inkuru y'amateka yawe ababaje kandi twese byatubabaje.wATUBYIYE IBYA SIMBA NGIRANGO URATUGEZAHO KO YABA YARAGIZE URUHARE MU MATEKAYAWE YA MBERE NDAHEBA.Reka nibutse abatwumva amateka y'intambara ku Nyundo
    Intambara ya 1990 yatangiye ni 6eme latin sciences mu iseminari aho twari dutangiye igihembwe cya mbere.Byaradutangaje twese kubona abanyeshuli baje mu wa mbere baganira cyane n'abo muli 6eme kandi bitabrabagaho mu mateka ya mbere bitewe n'imyumvire ya giseminari kuberako abantu bose bari bamwe.
    Ntibyatinze mu kigo wigishagamo bakongeje mu seminari amakuru y'ivangura, hazamo ndetse n'amarozi na essence zo gutwika.
    Ngirango urabyibuka neza ko bikimenyekana , Simba uwo yadukoresheje inama imara amasaha 8 ariko bihagararira aho bimaze kugaragara ko abaproffesseurs bo muli Lycee wigishagamo babigizemo uruhare ndese izina ryawe ryazagamo kenshi abana bamwe bavuga ko baza iawe.
    Simba yakoze uko bishobotse ikibazo kirarangira ndetse nta n'ivangura ryabagaho uretse nyine abiyumvagamo ko ari abahutu kurusha abandi kandi n;ubundi bari basanzwe kimwe n'abatutsi babyumva gutwo.Niba wibuka nyuma , abagoyi bateye ikigo cyacu ariko ntihagira umuntu n'umwe wabyishimiye kuko twese twari gushira.
    Ukuri rero ni uko, kimwe n'uko ukuvuga Simba ntaruhare yigeze agaragaza n'ubwo ibintu bitari byoroshye yakundaga kwibanira n'abanyeshuli y'umva ibibazo byabo ari nacyo musenyeli yamukundiraga.
    Ibyanyuma narahavuye sinabibonye ariko icyo nzi cyo ni uko abagoyi bakundaga Simba na Dominiko kurusha abandi barezi bacu kandi beza twagiraga.Bisobanuye impamvu interahamwe zaba zaratwaye Dominique ntizimwice.None se ko wtubwiye ko interahamwe zashatse kwimika Smba ngo abe musenyeli nawe urabyemera ko bishoboka? yari kugenda aririmba se ngo nda byanze? ko Kidumu interahamwe nkuruyambaye imyambaro a musenyeri agafata n'inkoni ye maze akagenda atanga umugisha, ubwo simba yabizira?

    Reka ndangize nkubaza ikibazo kimwe Ubu Presida Kagamwe apfuye kandi ukumva ko yishwe na FDLR WAHISHA ABAHUTU BANGAHE? UBONYE BICWA WAGIRA IMBARAGA ZINGANA IKI ZO KUBUZA UBWICANYI?

    Icyo wakora cyose umenyeko ubuzima bw'uriya mukambwe buri mu biganza byawe kuko mu band bamushinjaga bagezaho bisubiraho naho wowe uranangira ahubwo ushakisha amaboko yo ku mumanika.
    Nyina wagaga wabigufashijemo yaje yigamba ko interahamwe y'umupadiri bayirangirije burundu ariko ntibyamuhiriye kuko yahise atangira golgota ubu arabyicuza. Umwanya urahali, umutimanama ni uwawe, kandi Imana iragutegereje nk'uko byagendekeye interahamwe zamaze abantu. Wowe ntiwageze aho ariko ca inkoni izamba isi irazunguruka ntimenya uko bizamera ejo hazaza.

  • #96

    Nahayo (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 12:38)

    Iyi nyandiko ya Murashi Isaie impaye akanya ko kwibuka uko inkotanyi zagiye zirafata igihugu. Mbere yo kugira icyo mbyibutsaho reka mbaze Prof. Murashi.
    1) Kuba Padiri Simba yarakatiwe urumva hari icyo byakongereyeho nk’umuntu, cyangwa nka Diyosezi ya Nyundo cyangwa u Rwanda ubishyize muri gahunda y’ubwiyunge?
    2) Mu byo watubwiye byinshi, ko ntaho watweretse uko yafashije mugutegura genocide?
    3) Musenyeri Kalibushi wamutatse uvuga ko atari umuhutu cyangwa umututsi, ibyo ni ibyawe ariko se ni iki cyaba cyaratumye abajijwe uwamurokoye avuga ko yarokowe n’Imana kandi nawe unyibukije uko Colonel Nsengiyumva yamurokoye? Ubu uwo Colonel ari Arusha/ Gacaca Mpuzamahanga. Njye numvisemo ko Kalibushi yifuzaga kumvikanisha ko nta muhutu wagira neza!!!!
    4) Ko wumva mwamushinje kudasomera misa abapadiri bapfuye, ko mwe ntayo murasomera Msgr Nikwigize waguye aho ku Nyundo?
    5) Ko wumva wakurikiranye amateka ya Kiliziya Gatorika, kuki Diyosezi yanyu yiswe Nyundo? Inyundo ni igikoresho cyubakishwa ariko kinajanjagura? Ibiribyo ni ibihe? Naho se Kabgayi? Iwacu Kabgayi ni umwana wananiranye? None ku Nyundo na Kabgayi niho abasenyeri baguye?
    6) Ku bwawe wumva gukatira padiri Simba kiriya gihano biheshya ishema Diyosezi ya Nyundo?
    7) Ko Padiri Simba mwamugeneye Burundu, buriya uwabazanira interahamwe yari iyoboye aho ku Nyundo mwayiha ikihe gihano? Oya ugereranije nk’uko wamuvuze mwamwigirijeho nkana!!! Usome Psalm ya 15. Ni kagafi cyane.
    8) Iyo numvise Nyundo nibuka umudamu witwa Nyinawagaga claudine, mwaba muziranye? Impamvu mwibuka ni uko nashoboye kumenya ko uwo mudamu ari mu bantu bicishije akanafungisha abantu benshi baho ku Nyundo. Ariko ntanashirwe, akajya no gufungisha abari abanyeshuri muri Kaminuza i Butare aho yari amaze umwaka arangije. Ubu hari abanyeshuri bakatiwe burundu y’umwihariko. Yewe nkeneye kumva uko uzasobanura ubwiza bwa gacaca maze ukanyumvisha ukuntu umukuru w’ingabo yahabwa 30 ans, uwa gendarmerie 10 ans naho umwana wigaga muri UNR agahabwa burundu y’umwihariko. Ntuzibagirwe kudusobanurira uko Gatsinzi na Rwarakabije babaye abere. Kubesha kenshi biragora. Bigeraho bikicanga ugasanga wifunze burundu.
    Nk’uko rero nabitangiriyeho, inyandiko yawe inyibukije uko inkotanyi zagiye zirafata igihugu. Iyo zageraga muri buri gace zahasangaga ibyitso. Aba rero nibo bagiraga uruhare rwo kwemeza abagomba kwicwa. Niyo mpamvu akenshi iyo umusirikare w’umusajja yateraga umuhutu ku kandoyi yamubwira ngo mvuye kure pfa neza abo wabanye nabo nibo bakumpaye. Aha muhumve neza. Maze nimuja murajya gutekereza kuri Gen. Major Ibingira mujye murabanza mwisuzume mwibuke uwo mwari muturanye wamubashumurije. Mbere y’uko abasenyeri bicwa tel. zaracicikanye. Buriya wenda wasanga wa mupadiri wavuze ngo nawe aba yarabiyiciye ariwe wabajijwe. Kumenya ukuri bizatugora.
    Niyo wanca umutwe sinshobora kwemera ko Nikwigize yaguye muri Nyundo Kalibushi atabizi. Nongeye gushimira Ex-Far kuba nta Msgr bishe. Kwica Msgr ni sakirirego. Ibi niho Murashi wari ukwiye kuvuganira Padiri Simba kuko iyo ataja arasomera misa interahamwe mwese muba mwarashize. Keretse niba wemeza ko itari misa ahubwo babaga babonye akanya ko gutegura neza kuza kubamara. Ni akumiro kugira abakirisitu nkamwe.
    Ngarutse kuri Nyinawagaga ndamwibuka ubwo yari Mayor wa Gasabo, ubwo yajaga kwipfunda muri Gen. Major Ibingira kugirango amufashe guhangana na Vice Mayor we Jabo Paul wari ushigikiwe na Mayor Kirabo wa MVK. Rwose ntimumfate nk’umuntu ushigikiye uyu Mugenerali utazi no gusoma ariko mwiyumvishe uruhare rw’abantu nka Nyinawagaga wajaga kumuduteza. Ikindi kandi ni uko mugomba kumenya ko ubutoni bwabariya ba Nyinawagaga cyangwa Murashi kuri ba Ibingira bwavaga kumubare w’interahambwe/abahutu batanze. Kugirango berekane ko ari abatutsi beza batari kumwe n’interahambwe. Iyo byabaga na ngombwa barahimbaga ariko bakarebwa neza.
    Murashi na Nyinawagaga, ibyinshi mwabikoze mwibwira ngo ntabwo bizamenyekana. Icyo nababwira ni uko mwashira ubwenge kugihe. Abasore b’abagoyi murabazi kundusha. Mushaka mwasaba imbabazi hakiri kare kandi mugashyira mugaciro. Twese twaremwe kimwe mu ishusho y’Imana kandi twese tuzasubira mu gitaka.

  • #95

    Uwububa (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 12:09)

    Ngo Isaïe MURASHI yaranditse! Yuda ISKARIOTI nawe yanditse ivanjiri aho yemeza ko agambana,yari yizeye ko Yezu KRISTU acika abishi be naho we ikijyanira impiya ze. Kiriziya ntiygeze iha agaciro izo vanjili APOCRIF [ni benyishi z'ababayeho igihe kimwe na Yezu, ivanjiri zabo zitashyizwe muri Bibiliya].

    Ntabwo umuntu avuga ukuri[un fait] kuko yabonye ibintu, arebesha indorerwamo z'ibibazo bye cg ibyinshiti cg abanzi be[comment il retransmet avec son parti pris]. Ukuri ni iyo avuga ibyo yabonye uko byagenze ntacyo akuyemo cg ngo yongereho [réstitution honnête, rien que les faits sans émotion].

    Ibyo kuvuga ngo abari muri gacaca naka avuze, bagwa mukantu kuko bari bumvise ibyo navuze. Uri iki Nyakubahwa Isaïe kuburyo iyo wavuze, nubwo waba urimo kubeshya buri wese agomba kuvuga nkawe? Ntabantu se barira muri gacaca [ikinamico]ngo naka uyu yarantemywe ndamucika, kandi barabaga nko mu Burundi, Uganda, etc muri icyo gihe cya genocide? Niba uwari hanze yakina ikinamico ntavuguruzwe, uwari uhari yabuzwa n'iki kurikina nkawe?

    Ubushakashatsi bwagaragaje ko abantu 27, nibo babonana n abanyamahanga bagakina ikinamico ya genocide kandi bariberaga hanze! Uwo muco mu nzego zo hasi wahariwe bande?

    Ubutaha uzafungure ibinyoma byawe

  • #94

    Ibaze (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 09:07)

    Genocide yabaye Ntabwo ari movies twabonye nti mugahakanye umuntu uge uvuguruza ibintu utubwira uko wabibonye nkiyinkuru urabona ko ari sawa nawe warabaye muri kariya gace washyiraho ibyo wabonye. Naho gupinga ibyo umuntu yanditse nawe ubwawe ntagihamya nu kubogama

  • #93

    Merci Isaie Murashi (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 08:03)


    Murashi rwose ngushimire nivuye inyuma, reka dutegereze ibyo Thomas aza kugusubiza ( niba abitinyuka) wamuhaye rwose detailles , kandi umwereka ko uri ni umwanditsi uhamye!

    Ihangane naho abavuga hano bose ngo Ntuliye ndumva twaceceka uko tumuzi mbere ya genocide siko yenda yitwaye irimo kuba..twarabibonye twese abo twasangiraga kuri Pasika bahinduka amashitani mu minsi itarenze itanu gusa bagatangira gutwika kwica urubozo..Genda rwanda warakubititse ariko uzabyongera cg uzabitinyuka arahishiwe!...Ntanganzwa niyo abahutu bigira victimes...ariko sha iyo abatutsi bataba Nobles par nature wibwira ko hari umuhutu wari busigare muri 94!

    Mwe mwatwishe nta kosa twabakoreye, iyo aba aritwe twakoze iriya genocide mwarangiza mugafata ubutegetsi ubanza nubu muba mukica!!! Gusa nimutuze na nyuma yiyi ngoma haza Kigeli nawe abayobore.

  • #92

    nzabandora (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 04:49)

    Amajwi yumvikana neza (atarimo parasites)murayasanga hano:

    http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/1810954/1857097281/name/Sound

  • #91

    inkotanyi! (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 03:19)

    Mfate umwanya wogushimira umuvugizi mwaririya cukumbuzi ryayo,mubyukuli ijwi nirya Jacques Nziza ntakuvuga ngo amajwi yabaye altered cyangwa manipulated,cyeretse utazi uko avuga rwose nabandi ba officie twabigiyeho impaka twemeza yuko ijwi nirya Afande kabisa,iri ijwi ntabwo yarihakana rwose.Tubabamo tuzi ukuntu dukorana n'abo.
    Murakoze

  • #90

    kanama (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 02:31)

    Padri Murashi Izaie muvandimwe nzi ko uzi aho bibiliya ivuga ngo uguhora ni ukw'imana.Ngo kandi ntitugace imanza ejo natwe tutazazicibwa.Nanone ngo umuvandimwe wawe nagukubita mu musaya w'iburyo umuhereze n'uw'iburyo.None se padiri niba utabasha kubabarira uri padri jyewe w'umurayiki bizagenda bite? Ese ujya wibuka ko ku isi turi abagenzi.Ngo ntituugatinye abica umubiri badashobora kwica roho.Ngo ahubwo dutinye Imana ishobora kwica byose ikabiroha mu muriro utazima.Kuki wowe utabaye aka Yezu abwira se ngo ababarire kukobatazi icyo bakora.Erega mu muvandimwe ibyabaye iwacu ni ibyo kutugereza bizaragira buri wese amaze kumenya aho ahagaze n'inzira yihitiyemo ku bwende bwe.Ubishatse wasanga mugenzi wawe ukamusaba kabone niyo yaba ariwe wagukorereye bibi bityo ukaba ubaye umwere mu maso y'uwo wiyeguriye Uwo mu padri mugenzi wawe niba koko yaraguye muri icyo gishoko cyo kwambura ubuzima abo atabuhaye azabizwa akari kera naho wowe rwana kuri roho yawe jye simbona n'impamvu ugomba gusobanura kandi ari wowe uzi ikiri ku mutima wawe.Ngo ntagihishwe kitazaboneka.

  • #89

    Nkunda Amahoro (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 02:25)

    Ndi umwe mu babanye na Thomas, nkamenya Ntuliye na Murashi (Sagagutu Isaie). Mvuge iki ndeke iki? Murashi yababaye kuva akiri ikibondo, agahinda ke gahebuzwa na Genocide. Ngerageza kwishyira mu mwanya we nk'umubyeyi nanjye narabyaye, birenze ukwemera. Si we wenyine kandi, si n'abatutsi bonyine, ni abanyarwanda twese. Nanjye nzi uko kwihisha munsi y'imirambo bimera, kandi ndi umuhutu. Nkurikije ibyo nasomye, turasaba Murashi gukora ibirenze ubushobozi bwe. Ari muri ya logique ya gacaca. Yumva ko kuba abe bararenganye bihagije gusobanura impamvu nta muhutu uteye imbabazi. Turamusaba kuba intwari kandi atari yo. Wenda nanjye si ndi yo, genocide yabaye ndi umusore, usibye kubabazwa n'abishwe, ntacyo nakoze ngo mbakize, ntacyo nari nshoboye. Ariko iyo nemera guhara amagara, wenda hari uwo nari kurokora. Nari kuhasiga ubuzima, cyangwa Imana ikandinda. Nk'uko habaye intwari mu gihe cya Genocide y'abanyarwanda, n'ubu ziriho, ariko nta ruvugiro. Keretse uwiyemeje kuba yabizira, ingero ni nyinshi.
    Murashi: ihangane, ikimbabaje ni uko ushobora kutazagira amahoro muri ubu buzima n'ubuhoraho iteka. Sijye uzaca urubanza ariko uri gutatira bikomeye amaraso y'abawe. Reka kurenganya, va ibuzimu, garuka ibuntu. Reka umukambwe Ntuliye yisazire mu mahoro. Iyo genocide itaba, ubu wenda wasanga nari kuba ndi umukwe wawe. Generation yanyu biranze birayinaniye kimwe n'izayibanjirije gushyira igihugu mu nzira y'amahoro arambye n'iterambere. Muturaze ubutaka gusa, ibibazo n'amaganya. Natwe se ko mbona bitazoroha nkurikije ibyo bamwe mu bandika hano bavuga? Ubwo wenda n'ahabana bacu n'abuzukuru. Nyabuneka Isaie na bagenzi bawe, mwizeye neza ko uyu ari wo murage mushaka gusigira igihugu?

  • #88

    Mushikiwabo ari he? (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 01:57)

    Mushikiwabo wa muvugizi wa Kagame, nako umunyabinyoma we ari he ?
    Dore iyi nkuru niyo Rugambage yarasiwe igihe yararimo kuyitegura umwaka ushize. ntibazuyaje kumuturitsa umutwe. mubagendere kure.

  • #87

    Uh (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 01:49)

    Hahahahahhahahah

    Banyarubuga noneho ndumiwe kabisa. Ijwi ni irya Nziza pe kubamuzi rwose ubu se kandi birahaka iki rwose? Ubuse urubanza rudacibwa ngo rurangire? Ni amahhano ariko rwase pe ndumiwe. Gusa rwose Umuvugizi ndabemeye pe.

    Buri wese yasoma www.umuvugizi.com

  • #86

    NDUMIWE (vendredi, 10 juin 2011 00:37)

    Uzi ko wumva amajwi y'abantu bagambana kwica umuntu ugasesa urumeza. Mujye k'umuvugizi mwumve amajwi y'abagambanaga bashaka kwicira Kayumba mu bitaro.

  • #85

    Amajwi ya Jack Nziza acura umugambi (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 23:42)

    Ngaha amajwi ya Jack Nziza acura umugambi wo kwica Nyamwasa. Harya ubungubu barahakana iki ? Afrika y'epfo ikwiye gutanga warrant zo kumufata akoherezwa muri afrika y'epfo.
    http://www.umuvugizi.com/?attachment_id=1333

  • #84

    Murashi ni igitangaza rwose (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 22:28)

    Ibi rwose biratangaje iyi nkuru iragarargaza neza neza isura ya gacaca! Murashi arakoze pe! ahubwo agaragaje neza ibyo Human Right Watch iherutse gutangaza, ahubwo nayo bazayifate bayigire réference, kuko yivugirwa n'umuntu uri credible! Murashi, koko, nawe wize muri petit seminaire, nziko abantu bize za petit seminaire bari bazi ubwenge, (kuko njye nize College ya Christu umwami i Nyanza ndabizi), ariko murashi amarangamutima afite ubwo bwenge bwakagombye kugirira igihugu akamaro, ahubwo burakijandika! maze yagiye kubyangiza byose yigira umunyamateka avangavanze, arimo za repetitions nyinshi ngo abanze akurure attention y'abasomyi, ariko inkuru ye mu byukuri ntaho ihuriye na titre, kuko twari dutegereje kumva amarorerwa yakoze nuriya Simba nkuko abimwita ariko twabibuze pe. Murashi rwose, mbere na mbere pole, ku bw'abantu bawe wapfushije, ni ukuri birababaje, kubura umugore n'abana bane, ariko nyine ihangane ni sacrifice nyine wakoze, ukorera inkotanyi warazitangiye n'abandi benshi niko byabagenekeye, ariko hari inzirakarengane zapfuye zitanazi inkotanyi iyo ziva n'iyo zijya! Ni nk'uko ni ubu iyo Kagame yumvise utatse gato ngo akunda Kayumba cyangwa indi opposition , ahita avanaho umwanda, urumva ko nyine hari ababa ibitambo by'abo bashyigikiye, nawe nyine uko numvise wakoreye inkotanyi mu macumu acanye tu dois assumer.Pole. Naho ubundi turabizi twese ko Inkotanyi zifite uwo muco wo guhimba, ni ibintu batozwa, kandi bikaba, bigashyirwa mu nyandiko, imanza zigacibwa, ni uko archives zikabikwa kandi ari ibinyoma gusa gusa! Niko utagiye kure, abirirwa bashinjwa FDRL, batazi iyo iva n'iyo ijya urabavugaho iki? ibisasu byirirwa bituritswa bigashinjwa uvuze Kagame nabi wese? Niko ubu wambwira ko Ingabire afungiye iki? dossier irahari ikoze, yewe n'ibimenyetso biruzuye, ndetse noneho bagiye kuduheza burundu batwereke n'indaki mu rugo iwe, ibo si ibimenyetso byose? ubwo se urabyemera wowe? enfin izo ni ingero zifatika! naho byinshi byavuzwe, sindibuvuge byinshi cyane kuko benshi babivuze, bakoze analyse ku rubanza rwawe na Ntuliye. Gusa icyo nzi neza nahagazeho neza, nuko mu nama za AERG, za IBUKA, AVEGA? n'ibindi batozwa kuvuga, guhanga ubuhamya, guhimba inkuru zirimo umuntu ushakishwa na leta! urabona ukuntu uvuga ugahita uuvuga abaperefets ukavuga amazina, ukavuga abantu ahantu bari bari, n'icyo bakoraga kandi wari ngo wihishe! wumvise ukuntu watanze inkuru irambuye wumviye muri téléphone ivugira mu yindi? kandi uvuga ko wari uhamagaye ufite ubwoba ugira ngo wumve? ariko wabaze inkuru wumviye muri iyo téléphone, uvuga amazina y'abo wumvise bavugana n'ibyo bavuze, wagakoze mu kigo cy'itumanaho bwo, cyangwa uri maneko wumviriza téléphone, wafata téléphone ufite ubwoba ugahita wumva detailles zose n'amazina y'abantu? birababaje, iyaba ibyo bintu muhimba mwabigumanaga muri ayo makayi ya gacaca yanyu ntimubizane hano ku rubuga kuko biteye isesemi, birerekana ubugoryi n'ubuswa buri mu bikorwa byanyu! muratangaje gusa nta kindi! Mwari mukwiye gushyira ubwenge ku gihe mukaba ari bwo mwubakisha igihugu, naho ibindi ni uguta igihe! Ibi babyita amateshwa!

  • #83

    kuri gato #82 (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 22:17)


    Ngushimiye ko ushubije. Icyo tutumvikanagaho ni uko muri comment ibanziriza iyi ya #82 nabonaga uvuga ko Murashi yamye ahigwa mu buzima bwe bwose kubera ubwoko bwe: ibyo si byo. Kuva intambara yatangira (1990) abanyarwanda babaye abandi: ibi narabibwiwe kuko ntari mu Rda. Ariko mbere y'intambara nta makimbirane yigeze aba hagati y'abahutu n'abagogwe, ni na cyo cyatumye Murashi agaruka mu Rda. Kuba yaragiye kwiga muri Zaire ho si igitangaza kuko benshi ni ko babikoraga.

    Kuriya wajyaga mu isoko muri Mahoko ugahura n'abantu bafite imvugo yabo ni ukubera nyine kiriya gihe cy'intambara. Ndakubwira ko n'imiryango yasubiranagamo. Muri icyo gihe kandi ngo hari inzara ku buryo uwo bafatiraga mu murima w'undi bahitaga bica (ni ibyo nabwiwe). Urabona ko ibintu byari bikomeye.

    Njye icyo nashakaga kwerekana ni uko ari intambara yabyukije kiriya kibazo cy'amoko, kandi nawe urabizi. Ikibabaje ni uko aho kugira umutima usubiza amaso inyuma ugasesengura, ukareba impamvu abantu bari inshuti basubiranyemo kugeza aho bamarana, Murashi arakomeza ashaka kuba umumotsi wa Kagame. Ese nawe waba uhakana ko Kagame n'Inkotanyi ze zitatsembye abantu muri kariya karere? @Nyamijos #10 ushobora kuba yari mu Rda we ashobora kuba anabihagazeho kuko avuga itsembatsemba ryabereye kuri Mahoko. None kuki Murashi atagaragaje ubwo bugabo bwe asaba mugenzi we yafungishije, mu gihe Inkotanyi zamaraga abantu hariya mu majyaruguru (kandi harimo abagogwe bene wabo wa Murashi)?

    Icyo duhurizaho ni uko tutifuza ko abana b'abanyarwanda bakongera gusubiranamo. Erega ni uko ari ubucucu bwa Kagame wakoreshejwe n'abongereza n'abanyamerika mu gihe bo bishakiraga Kongo. Kagame yashatse gukoresha bwa buryo bwa kera bwo kurwana, aho ingabo zagendaga zica abantu (abagore, abana, abakecuru,...) aho zinyuze hose. Ingaruka ni uko gusana imitima bizasaba igihe kirekire.

  • #82

    gato (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 21:31)

    Ngire icyo nkwibwirira wowe #72. Mu Bugoyi ndahazi, njye nize ku Musanze, nakundaga kurara ku nyundo mva cg njya mu Rugo. Nongere nkubwire ko ntahigwaga, ariko ndagirango ntumbeshye amahane y'abagoyi ndayazi. Inshuro nyinshi najyaga mu isoko rya mahoko, nahavanga ntonganye n'abantu banyiyenzagaho muri 92, 93, bavuga ngo dore uko ndeshya. Ibyakurikiyeho ni uko abana bose (bane)twiganaga, bari bakiri muri izo nzira muri 94 babishe kandi 3 muri bo bari abo mwita abahutu. Rero itonde, ndakumenyesha ko ibyo bintu abantu bamwe bihaye byo kwigira ibyigomeke, abanyamahane, abahutu b'ibitangaza hari abo bitera icyo ni iki.
    Ngo abagogwe babanaga neza n'abandi bagoyi!!!? Birashoboka kuko nemera ko ibyo dupfa bidasobanutse. Ariko rero uko abanyarwanda bahinduka inyamaswa ntabwo ndabisobanukirwa. jye ndagirango nkubwire ko abana b'abagogwe babiri twiganaga, babiciye i wabo muri vacance muri 92 (Genocide yari itaraba). Bariya ba padiri Murashi yavuze cyane cyane Kegeyo w'i Rambura , ndamuzi cyane we na Padiri Antoine. Kageyo niwe wasomeraga Habyarimana misa iwabo mu Gasiza. (Uzambaze uko nabaga mpari nzabikubwira). Hanyuma se wasobanura ukuntu bishwe mu ba mbere?
    Muri make ibyabaye ni amahano, ni agahoma munwa,icyo mbasaba ni ukwifuza ko bitazangera kandi bigahera mu mvugo n'ibikorwa. Sinshatse kuvuga ariko ko tugomba kwirengangiza ibibi bikorerwa abaturage ubu, ngo ngaha habaye amahano. Gusa ikibi ntigikosorwa n'ikindi.
    Harakabaho u Rwanda rwatubyaye.

  • #81

    Twumvikane (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 21:30)

    Muvandimwe Isaie,
    Ndakwita umuvandimwe kuko uli umunyarwanda nkanjye. Nifatanije nawe cyane mu kababaro ufite ko kuba waratakaje abawe muli kiliya gihe nkuko nanjye nataje abanjye muli ubwo buryo.
    Cyakora ndagira ngo nanjye ngire icyo mvuga kuli bimwe mu byo wanditse:
    Nanjye nize mu seminari ku Nyumdo. Muli 1959 nari mpari. Uko abatutsi bahungiye mu Semanari mu Kayanza no kuli Paroisse ya Nyundo narabibonaga nanjye nkuko wabivuze; ndanibuka ko bamwe mu mpunzi baje gucumkirwa mu mazu yari amaze kubakwa akaba yaragenewe kwororerwamo ingurube kubera ko Padri Mukuru wa Seminari, Matayo Ntahoruburiye yari amaze kubona ko hari ibiryo byinshi abanyeshuli basigazaga bigapfa ubusa; bityo lero agira icyo gitekerezo cy'uko ibyo bisigazwa byajya bigaburirwa ingurube, nazo zigatanga inyama. Bamwe muli bariya bapadri biciwe ku Nyundo nari mbazi kandi bari n'inshuti zanjye. Imana ibahe iruhuko lidashira. Muli 1994 bwo sinari mpari. Ntacyo nakuvuguruzaho lero.
    1)Ngo muli 1959, Padri Matayo Ntahoruburiye yasanze urira, akubajije ikikuriza, umubwira ko urizwa n'ababyeyi bawe bajyawe i Nyamata, nawe ngo aragubiza: "Humura uzabona ababyeyi bawe. Yooo! Abana ntako basa, ni beza iyaba batakuraga!"
    Iki ni ikinyoma cyambaye ubusa. Ntabwo ali byiza kubeshyera abazimu. Padri Matayo uko mwibuka ntiyari umuntu wo kuvuga amagambo nk'ayo ayabwira umwana muli icyo gihe. Padri Matayo Ntahoruburiye yari umuhutu akaba yaratoranijwe na Musenyeri Bigirumwami w'umututsi kumubera Padri Mukuru w'Iseminari ye yigwagamo n'abatutsi, abahutu n'abatwa. Musenyeri Bigirumwami akaba yarakomeje kumugirira confiance muli icyo se kubera neutralité yerekanye muli conflits zali hagati y'abana babahutu, abatwa n'abatutsi mu mashuri. Yari akunzwe rwose n'abana b'ingeri zose mu Seminari.
    Ngirango uribuka inama zo kunga abana yakoresheje mu mashuli yose.
    Ngira ngo waba warumvise imbaga y'abaseminari bakera bagiye kwizihiza Anniversaire y'imyaka 50 yari amaze mu busaserdoti. Kayanza yose yari yuzuye abanyeshuri be, abahutu, abatutsi n'abatwa yareze. Bamwe bari iyo muli Congo aho wabaga.
    2)Uti inkiko Gacaca z'Imirenge ya Kimironko na Nyarugenge zatumwe gukorera ku Nyumdo:
    Yemwe mwakabyara mwe, uru ni Urwanda Rushya koko! Niko Isaie we, ko mbona uli umuntu ukuze, ukaba uli na Honorable, ntabwo usanzwe uzi uko inkiko gacaca nyarwanda zikora? Mbere y'ingoma ya Kagame hari aho wigeze wumva ngo gacaca yo ku musozi uyu n'uyu cyangwa yo mu muryango uyu n'uyu zagiye gucira imanza ku misozi yindi cyangwa imiryango yindi. Wigeze wumva ngo gacaca yaciriye umuntu igihano cyo kunyagwa ibye, cyo gufungwa, cyo kwicwa? Ni akumiro!
    3)Ngo abanyururu benshi bireze bemera icyaha bigaragaje basaba gushinja Padri Simba! Ibyo ni imikino imenyerewe yo kwa Kagame.
    4)Bimwe mu birego ngo abanyuru bareze Padri Simba ngo ni nko kujya gusomera misa interahamwe. Ni ubwa mbere numvise ko gusomera misa umuntu, naho yaba ali n'unyacyaha, ko ali icyaha; kandi ibyo bigashyigikirwa na Honorable wigeze gushaka kuba padri da!
    Isaie we, aliko ubanza ushobora kuba wagira icyo upfana na Tom Ndahiro!

  • #80

    Urasebya Seminaire! (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 21:24)

    Abantu vraiment bage bareka kwigira injiji bikabije! Même si, ubutegetsi bushobora kuguhuma amaso, kuba ibyo uvuga, wemeza ko ari wowe na Nturiye mubizi n'Imana, ni gute urukiko rushobora ku byemera nk'ukuri, sauf nyine muri cas nk'iyi mwica mugakiza! Ishyire mu mwanya we, umuntu agushinje ibyo avuga ko ariwe ubizi nawe!!!!

    Ndabyumva ko ukwiye kugira akababaro ka famille yawe yahatikiriye, mais ntabwo ariyo raison yo gushinja ibintu bidafite sens ku bantu babyumva. Bibaye aribyo, nk'umuntu wize ntabwo wanjya imbere y'ubucamanza ngo ubibwire abaturage batize, ubasobanurira ko ukuri kwawe, ari wowe n'uwo ushinja mu kuzi kandi ko bagomba ku kwemera! Nta somo utanga, urasebya seminaire n'abize bose!

  • #79

    dore ukuri (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 21:20)

    ....iyo twaterwaga batwita ibyitso by‘ Inkotanyi twahungiraga mu Iseminari , Padiri Nturiye akatwakira. No ku italiki ya 07/04/1994 ni uko byagenze.Bivuze rero ko ubwicanyi bwa Jenoside bwatangiye turi mu rugo rwa Padiri NTURIYE.....

    Munsomere ayo magambo murasanga harimo avuguruzanya... birabereka ko umutego mutindi uturikana nyirawo....



    Interahamwe zagabye igitero cya mbere mu iseminari kuwa 07/04/1994 ku gicamunsi. Abari aho twese twakwiriye imishwaro,... Icyumba ninjiyemo nagihuriyemo na Padiri SIMBA, Padiri NZANANA,...

    ...Akomeje atyo rero Padiri Nzanana yagize ubwoba arasohoka, ako kanya akimara gufunga urugi rw’icyumba twarimo yahubiranye n’igihiriri cy‘ interahamwe zadushakishaga,zimwicira aho mu kirongozi(corridor), tubyumva. Ubwo kandi Padiri Simba niko yakomezaga kugerageza gufungura urugi nanjye nkamufata nkamukomeza kuko urumva nawe iyo ajya gufungura uko byari kutugendekera.

    Ikindi cyagonze Padiri Nturiye, ni ukuntu yahunze ikigo yayoboraga akaduta aho mu kaga akisangira interahamwe, agakorana nazo. Uti byagene bite? Ubwo Interahamwe , muri icyo gitero cya mbere zishemo Padiri Nzanana Adrien na Padiri Twagirayezu Déo zasanze yihagarariye imbere y‘ icyumba cye,zahise zihabwa „commandement“ yo gusubira inyuma ziragenda

  • #78

    Karahamuheto (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 21:11)

    Ndasubiza comment #72. Uti 1959, yatangijwe n'insoresore z'abatutsi bakubise Mbonyumutwa agakizwa n'ibigango bye!! Ariko urasetsa koko! Ubwo icyo kinyoma cyakwijwe n'abicanyi nicyo ukigenderaho kugeza nubu? Uziko uri agahwinini! Shyira mu gaciro nawe wumve. Ni gute umuntu w'umusaza yarwana n'abasore umunani akabanesha? Nubwo yaba ari karateka ufite ceinture noire, ntabwo yabishobora nkanswe uriya munyagitarama wo muri Parmehutu! Nibyo koko yagiye impaka na bariya basore bamukubita urushyi kandi wasanga yari anarukwiye niba yaravugaga ibintu bitari mu buryo, ubwo byabaye ngombwa ko bamukosora! Naho wowe ntukavange amasaka n'amasakaramentu. 1959 yatewe na politique mbi y'ivanguramoko. Uzabeshye ababirigi!

  • #77

    musome imuvugizi w'uyumunsi murumirwa (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 21:02)

    kagame bamutaye hanze pee!! nimujye kuri
    www.umuvugizi.com cyange se kuri link hasi hano.

    http://www.umuvugizi.com/?p=1332

  • #76

    gato (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 21:00)

    Ariko umuntu uvuga ko ibintu bigiye kumera nabi kuruta 59 cg 94 aba muzima? Niko wowe wiyise Rose, ubona bibaye wabyungukiramo? Ko nuwahanuye Habyarimana nkeka ko bitamuhiriye uko yabyifuzaga ra! Ko n'interahamwe zigaruriye u Rwanda rwose mu mezi ane bitazuguye neza ra! Njye ndakeka ko hari abanyarwanda bakiri inyuma mu myumvire. Kabone niyo ibintu byaba bitagenda mu Rwanda kwemeza ko tuzasubira 1994 njye birampahamura. Simbabeshye ntabwo nahigwaga 94, ariko iyo ngira imbunda nari kurwana. Ndamenyesha abifuza ayo mahano ya 1994, ko ntazongera kwemera ko abantu bitwara giterahamwe (hutu cg tutsi = abicanyi) bongera kudutobanga turebera.
    Mwatekereje cg mukifuza ibyiza ko aribyo bitanga amahoro

  • #75

    Rose kabuye (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 20:23)

    Utazi Kagame aramubarirwa!Utazi FPR azambaze ibyo yankoreye!Ok, ndacyayirimo kuko mvuze ko nayivuyemo barara banyishe kdi nari nshinzwe protocole ya Katindi Kagome!
    Gusa mumfashe dusabire Urwanda, kuko ndabona ibintu bigiye kumera nabi kurenza muri 1959 no 1994.dusabire Kagome Ubuhungiro kggo atuvire mu gihugu kigire amahoro

  • #74

    uransekeje pe! (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 19:57)

    @JMutabazi. Sha uransekeje kabisa! Igereranya ryawe ko ndeba rigutamaza utarava online ra? None se uremeza ko ayo maZAIRE yo ku gihe cya Mobutu yagumye yarataye agaciro atigeze yongera ngo azamuke kandi? Uremezako se ubundi iyo babanje kuba mbere bajya gushinga RPF hatari abandi bavugaga nkawe bakababeshyera ngo bafite imirizo?! Sinshyigikiye aba bagabo kuko nabo bakiri muri Leta dore abiciwe za Gitarama Kabgayi Byumba Ruhengeli Na Congo (Zaire) aba bagabo bari mu butegetsi kandi kandi bakomeye ntabyo bahagaritse. Ariko kwibwirako ari ibigarasha ho uribeshya ugira ngo urabeshya Kagame tu! Kereka niba nawe uri umuherwe ukaba ufite icyo wizeye!

  • #73

    kuri Mugabe Paul #68 (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 19:37)


    Nyamara ubishoboye wadutegurira inyandiko ndende aho utubwira ukuntu wabonye iyo gacaca n'ukuntu MURASHI yabyitwayemo. Ubwo watubwira uko abo bacamanza babyifatagamo, uko bamwe bazaga bashaka gushinja inzirakarengane,...

    Icyo nkundira abanyarwanda bo mu majyaruguru ni uko bavuga ibintu uko babibona. Yego hari igihe bibagwishamo ariko kandi.

  • #72

    @gato #71 (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 19:28)


    Kuvuga ko Murashi yakuze ahigwa kubera ubwoko bwe sinzi aho ubikuye. Niba warabaye mu Bugoyi, dore ko ariho Murashi yavukiye akanakurira, uzi ko nta makimbirane yabaga hagati y'abahutu n'abagogwe (abagogwe ni abatutsi bimukiye mu majyaruguru mu gihe cya kera cyane). Murashi yize muri Zaire, niba waragenze Zaire ntabwo bibasiraga abatutsi ahubwo bibasiraga abo bita "banyarwanda" (abahutu n'abatutsi bavanze). Murashi yagarutse gukora ku Nyundo, ndetse avuga ko yahabaye neza. Izo nkuru zawe rero uvuga ko Murashi yamye ahigwa bukware ni ibihimbano byawe wikurira mu mutwe.

    Uti umwana yatandukanye n'ababyeyi kubera 59. Ese ni nde nyirabayazana wa 59? Ntabwo uzi ko ari insoresore zakubise Mbonyumutwa agakizwa n'ibigango bye? Ese ntabwo uzi ko rugikubita icyo gihe abatutsi batangiye guca amabya abatware b'abahutu, sinzi niba barashakaga kuyambika Kalinga. Iyo abatutsi bari ku ngoma icyo gihe baza kwemera gusangira kuyobora igihugu hamwe n'abahutu uragira ngo hari kuba 59? Ni kimwe n'ubu: barabwira Kagame bati nyabuneka reka kwica, reka guhutaza abantu, reka gusenyera abakene,... ntibimujye mu gutwi ahubwo akagira ngo afite igisirikari. Ndakubwira ko nakomeza kuriya amaherezo ye atazaba shyashya. Dore aho nibereye, muzaba mumbwira!

    Menya rero amateka mbere yo kugira icyo utangaza.

  • #71

    gato (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 19:06)

    Murashi we komera kandi ndagusaba kugumya kurenga kubya kubabaje, atari uko uri umumarayika, ahubwo ugirira neza igihugu cyawe, ndetse n'ejo hazaza h'abawe (waba warashoboye kwibaruka nyuma).
    Hanyuma rero ku bavuga ko waba ubeshya, njye sinaba umucamanza kuko ntari ndi ku nyundo. Gusa reka mvuge utuntu duke
    - Banyarwanda, icyo waba wemera ko uri cyo cyose (hutu, tutsi,)uribaza kuba uri umwana nk'abandi hanyuma ukumva ngo ababyeyi bawe babatwaye ahandi (déportés), kandi ko ushobora kutazababona?
    - Muribaza kuvuka uri muto wumva ko uhigwa kubera ubwoko bwawe hanyuma, wamara kuba igikwerere, bakaza bakakwicira abawe bose nawe bakagusiga ha mama?
    Uriya padiri Simba namubonye ho gato ariko padiri Nzanana Andrien ndamuzi. Niba koko yarapfuye mu ba mbere, kandi Simba akaba atari abyishimiye, yagombaga guhita asigarana n'abandi barokotse, ntabasige, mbese akagaragaza akababaro ka mugenzi we uzize amaherere. Kuba rero yarabasize, akajya ahandi (njye sinshatse kuvuga ko yasanze interahamwe ariko n'uwabyemeza ntiwamuhakanya), bigaragaza ko hari ikintu kitari kiza ku mutima we. Mwibuke ko guta abantu mu kaga (non assistance à person en danger)ari icyaha. None se Myr Kalibushi yababwiye ati mwirwaneho. Undi wenda iyo ababwira ati murebe uko mwihisha ibintu birakomeye, byari binaniranye se kuvuga gutyo?
    None se abavuga ko murashi abeshya bo bahera he koko? Ariko abitwa ko bavugira abahutu mujye mushyira mu gaciro, aho mwibuka ko révolution ya 59, twemeza ko yatewe n'akarengane kagirirwaga abahutu? None se muhindukira mute mukumva ko akarengane kagirirwa umututsi katatuma bavuga ngo "oya". Nkeka ko abantu bagomba gushyira mu gaciro niba dushaka akazoza keza k'igihugu cyacu. Kutumva akababaro ka mugenzi wawe, ukireba, ukikunda gusa ntaho byakugeza.
    Gusa icyo ngayo ni uburyo politique, inda nini byivanze muri gacaca. Nawe se ngo umuntu watemaguye abantu ijana, ngo kuko ntacyo atwaye muri politique (kuko n'ubundi yapfuye ahagaze), ngo nasabe imbabazi atahe. Undi ngo yari umunyebwenge ngo nafungwe burundu kandi ntawe yatemye(icyihishe inyuma kikaba ngo ageze hanze yakira,richesse, yafasha bene wabo cg ngo yasaba uburenganzira kuri politique). Ibi ndabigaya pe. Ntabwo umutemamajisi yambwira ngo nta bwonko yagiraga, ngo ni abamushutse. Yari robot se (ikimashini)? Iyo yanga gutema abantu se maze abo bize bakabitemera. Njye mbona ibyabaye muri gacaca byarahushije umurongo, nta kunga kwabayemo. Iyo bigenda neza ndakeka ntaho mwari guhera muvuga nabi murashi.
    Ukuri niko kuzakiza u Rwnda

  • #70

    JMutabazi (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 18:43)

    Sha Jules, ako kanwa kawe kameze nkako basweyemo ushatse wagafunga. Nutagafunga tuzakagufungira. Ikipe ukina nayo ntuyizi. Aya magambo wanditse simeza, bishyire kera azayabazwa. Aba atuka urabazi. N'iki kiguha uburenganzire bwo kwandagaza abantu akageni nkaka. Sinivuze nzavumba, turaziranye bihagije, ndakuzi pe. Abakwibeshyaho ngo muri kumwe nibamenya ibyawe uzakwirwahe wa kirumirahabariri.



    @All,

    Insanganyamatsiko ya Rwanda Day izaba ivuga ku Gaciro k' u Rwanda n' Abanyarwanda: "Agaciro: Our Heritage, our Future "
    Agaciro k' umuntu ni Character ye, ni Content imurimo, ni Pride ye, ni Dignity ye. Kandi wa mugani wa President Kagame, Agaciro ni umuntu ukiha, akagaharanira.
    Umuntu udafite agaciro aba ari Zero. Muri we haba harimo ubusa. Ibyo avuga biba ari Zero. Ibyo atekereza biba ari Zero n' ibyo akora biba ari Zero.

    Muzi ifaranga ryataye agaciro uko riba rimeze?

    Muribuka amafaranga y'AmaZaire yakoreshwa kubwa Mobutu cg Amafaranga yakoreshwaga ku bwa Habyalimana, ubu akaba yarataye agaciro? Hari ibinoti by' igihumbi byinshi nkifite iwanjye, ariko ubu byabaye nka Papiers hygeniques!

    Biriya bigarasha byacu uko ari 4 + 1 (Kayumba + Karegeya + Rudasingwa + Gahima + Rusesabagina) nabo niko bigiye kubagendekera, nyuma ya Rwanda Day.
    N' ubundi bari barataye Agaciro, ariko ubu bagiye kugata UBUZIRAHEREZO!!!!

    Bagiye kumera nk'AmaZaire yo ku bwa Mobutu cg AmaFRW yo kubwa KINANI!!!!


    Cheers

    JMutabazi

  • #69

    manzi (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 18:40)


    Ngo utunga agatoki mugenzi wawe mu gihe wowe uba witunze intoki eshatu. Harya wowe MURASHI ko wavukiye i Busasamana ho mu Bugoyi, ugakurira ku Nyundo ho mu Bugoyi ndetse ukaba uri n'UMUGOGWE, ubutwari bwawe wabugaragarije he mu gihe wagombaga kugoboka abandi? Muri buriya bwicanyi bwakozwe n'INKOTANYI bwibasira ABAGOYI n'ABARERA (1996-2000), ni ikihe gikorwa wakoze ngo urengere inzirakarengane kandi wari ufite umwanya ukomeye mu butegetsi? Ese ko Inkotanyi zatsembye bene wanyu b'abagogwe zikageza n'aho zibatsembera muri Kongo ko utigeze utera hejuru? Uriya mugogwe ngo ni Nkunda ko afungiye aho i Kigali na bene wabo bakaba bagikomeza gutsembwa n'Inkotanyi ukorera, kuki uryumaho?

    Biroroshye gushinja inzirakarengane muri gacaca: nyamara burya ubwo si ubugabo, ahubwo ni ububwa! None ngo urashaka kongera kwandika izindi nyandiko utaka shobuja Kagame kugira ngo urebe niba yaguterera igufa ryo kurigata. Urababaje kandi uteye agahinda! Kuba warapfushije umuryango wawe wose nta somo byaguhaye? Wagombye kuba ugenda hirya no hino ushaka ko amahoro yagaruka mu mitima y'abanyarwanda, none wowe icyo wumva ugamije ni uguheza uriya mugenzi wawe mu ibohero, ukongeraho ugashaka kuba umumotsi wa Kagame. Abantu baragwira! Uwakwibarutse yaragendesheje koko, nta mutima ugira! Uri igishushungwa!

  • #68

    Mugabe Paul (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 18:36)

    Murashi sinari nzi ko umuntu yaba umugome bigeze hariya. Nakubonye ubwo twari ku gasoko hariya muri Muhira hafi yo ku Nyundo aho Gacaca wowe wemera yari yazindukiye gucira urubanza uwitwa Rafiki Hyacinthe. Waramushinje karahava, umuvuga ibinyoma kandi nta muturage numwe wemerega ibyo uvuga kuko twese twavuze ko uwo muntu tutigeze tumubona mugihe ubwicanyi bwari bukarishye ku Nyundo. Ndakwibutsa ko yari Gacaca idasanzwe kuko harimo n'abantu batweretse ngo bavuye Arusha, uwo nibuka yitwa Sendwe. Ibyo wavugaga byose habuze undi muntu wabyemeza uretse umuntu umwe witwa ................ nawe utazwi muri Muhira. Abaraho bose barumiwe ndetse n'abacamanza ba gacaca batangazwa nuko ibyo washinjaga uwo muntu ntaho byari bishingiye kuko uwo muntu atigeze akandagira ku Nyundo muri iyo minsi. Abagwabiro ariko twe twita abatutsi bo muri Muhira bose babwiye abacamanza ba Gacaca ko Rafiki ntawe yigeze agirira nabi mubuzima bwe ko ndetse bamwe muri abo batutsi bahungiye iwabo mu rugo kuko byari bizwi ko ntawe uzavogera iwabo ngo yicire yo abantu. Nakubwira nka Nyiramariza Lozarie n'abandi.
    Niba rero ibyo twiyumviye ushinja uriya Rafiki Hyacinthe aribyo ushinja Simba ntabwo nashidikanya ko uri umugome w'umushinja binyoma mubi ushaka kwicisha abahutu ubaziza ko ari abahutu. Niba umuryango wawe warapfuye ntiwishwe na Padiri Simba nkuko utishwe na Rafiki nawe ushaka gucisha umutwe ukaba warabuze aho uhera. Nakumenyesha ko umwe mu banyururu uvuga mubashinja Padiri Simba yitwa Gérard wamukoresheje gushinja Rafiki ibyaha bimwe yashinje Padiri Simba bikabura icyo bifata, ahubwo uwo Gérard amenye ko ushaka ko yafatwa akongera agafungwa yahise acika arahunga. Ntukomeze kubeshya abantu ubabwira amateka ya Nyundo kuko ntacyo bibamariye. Kuba uzi ayo mateka ni uko wavutse kera naho ubundi ntacyo bimariye twe twasomnye inyandiko zawe zuzuye ubugome.
    Bariya bapadiri bo ku rubuga rwa le prophete, ufite umujinya ko ntacyo ushobora kubakoraho kuko bashoboye kwivana mu Rwanda rwa Kagame.

  • #67

    Kazungu : Padiri Thomas muzamurege ibindi! (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 18:33)

    Nsomye commentaire y'uwiyita Kabalisa #46, ndaseka! Kimwe n'abiyita ba tito ...bari gushotora padiri Thomas, nimumutegereze ! Buriya se ugize ngo ntiyicaye kuri analyse uyu mugabo Murashi yamusabye gukora! Rahira ko nafata ikaramu utu tugabo twihaye kumukora mu jisho, tutazikubita hasi ubugira gatatu!

    Niba mutazi Padiri Thomas...reka mubabwire njye twariganye mu ishuri rimwe ku Nyundo! uriya uvuga ngo Thomas ntiyari umuhanga afite ikindi ashaka kuvuga cg se ntazi ibyo ari gupfa kuroha! Hanyuma se ko muheruka mu Iseminari aba uwa mbere gusa, ibyo nibyo kuba umuswa ? Intore muri mu isi icuramye koko!

    Ese aho muzi ko Thomas yabaye na Doyen wa mbere watowe n'abaseminari kuko ubusanzwe doyen yashyirwagaho n'abapadiri! Akijyaho, abaseminari batangiye kuvuga ku mugaragaro icyo batekereza bigera n'aho bahaguruka bakora grève kubera umwarimu w'umukongomani wari warigize un Tyran ,akica agakiza! Ku ngoma ya Doyen Thomas nibwo twashoboye guhangamura uwo mugome, aragenda aduha amahoro!

    Intambara ya Thomas Nahimana contre la dictature si iya none !!

    Rata padiri Thomas, gira bwangu utugezeho analyse Murashi yasabye, turategereje ! ntutinye kumwambika ubusa , natwe turategereje ngo twisekere! Gira impagarike n'ubugingo. Kazungu

  • #66

    Kaborogota (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 18:33)

    Yewe ngo so ntakwanga akwita nabi.Ise yamwise MURASHI none ndabona yirashe ibya ni ukuri,muri make yishyize hanze nk'induru.Nakenyere rero atangire asobanure ukuntu yari afite umuhoro mugihe interahamwe zatsembatsembaga abatutsi,atubwire nicyo yawukoresheje(umubare wabatutsi yishe),adusobanurire nukuntu we yaba yararokotse kandi anitwaje umuhoro mugihe bene wabo babatutsi bo bari bashize bicwa.naho kuvuga ngo araziza padiri ibyo yavuze byo ni ibihimbano nasomye neza ntaho yigeze avuga ko uriya mupadiri hari aho yari afite intwaro,none se yaba yarishe abantu akoresheje amagambo gute KERETSE WENDA ATUBWIYE KO YABA YARAMUTEGETSE KWICA ABATUTSI KUKO NIWE WIVUGIYE KO YARI AFITE UMUHORO!

  • #65

    right (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 18:12)

    niba nibuka neza uyu Murashi si umwe witwaga Sagahutu akaza kurihindura? Ababyibuka bambwira!!

  • #64

    Bravo Murashi (jeudi, 09 juin 2011 17:53)


    Mr Isaie, ugaragaje rero inyandiko irimo ubwenge , ubushishozi nubuhanga mu kwandika ntiwite kubari kwiha kuyipinga nuko ifite ukuri kandi itabanyura kubera impamvu zabo bwite...Naho se ubu ninde wayigereranya nimwe ya Thomas yamagambo yabwiwe akayiyitira ...kimwe na ya nkuru ya Phocas..

    Padiri Thomas iyiba rwose wameraga nka Thomas intumwa ukabanza ugakora analyse critique mbere yo guhubukira kujugunya ibintu kuri site yawe( nubwo ariyawe ariko isomwa na benshi) sigaho kwandika inkuru utahagazeho...

    Ariko rimwe uzandike iya Yusufu nawe utubwire uko arengana Arusha kweri..

    Naho isaie iyakurukoye ziriya ntindi zinterahamwe izaguha umugisha mu ijuru dore uko uwo mu isi abawukwifuriza ari bake, kukubona birabarya benshi ariko nta bapfira gushira tukuri inyuma, tera intambwee.

    Ngushimiye uburyo usubije Thomas wigize umwanditsi wamateshwa namabwire...ngaho se niyiregure kuri nyandiko nka kumwe amenyereye gusubiza ba Ndahiro...ngo " Ndahiro weeee" style parle nkiyo mu misozi..,iyi inyandiko yubuhanga ndenga Thomas ntegereje ibyo ayivugaho, naceceka tuzamenya ko nta bwanditsi bwe ategereza abamujunyira utwo ashyiraho.

    Ndagize ngira nti Thomas rwose site uyirekere Fortunatus wowe uzahimbe iyamakuru yo terre a terre,,,